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post #1 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 10:59 PM Thread Starter
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High-Fat Feed without Molasses

Okay, so I'm having a pretty rough time finding a good feed for my OTTB. He's 11 years old and 16.0hh, he weighs 1000lbs right now and could use about 100lbs. He's a very hard keeper, we've struggled for months to put weight on him and it took rice bran (which made him absolutely nuts) and lots of fat supplements.

Right now he's on 3lbs of Triple Crown Low Starch 2x daily, so 6lbs a day, along with 4oz of cool calories and 4 flakes of hay. I'd love for him to be on more hay, but it's been an uphill battle with my barn manager to give him more. I'm trying to find a new place where he'll get more hay, but for now I have to work with what I have. He was treated for ulcers in November of 2013, and was put on a 3-month SandClear purge for sand in his colon.

Here's where it gets tricky. I need something low in sugar and starch, without molasses, and without alfalfa or beet pulp in large amounts - limited amounts of either one is okay, but not too much. He's had some trouble with inflammation in his feet so this diet is at the direction of my trimmer, who's advice I take to heart very deeply as it's helped me greatly.

Now, the question: I absolutely love the TC Low Starch, his coat is shiny and he's been calm but with plenty of non-crazy energy, but it just isn't putting weight on him. I'm looking for a grain without the ingredients mentioned above that has a higher fat content - over 10% would be absolutely fantastic, and he's a bit of a nervous horse so I need something that won't make him even more nuts, if such a thing exists lol.

I've looked at Blue Seal's Sentinel Performance LS and it looks pretty good, but I've seen on a couple of forums that it made horses crazy, and they don't have sugar and starch content or an NSC listed.

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post #2 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:02 PM
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Why not just add oil to his feed? I'd try coco soya
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post #3 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:10 PM
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Will your BO feed extra hay if you provide it?
You could try a hay net or slow feeder to keep food in front of him all day.

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post #4 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:11 PM
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I know I have suggested this several times across different threads, but I switched my APHA mare to Purina Ultium last year from Strategy because she drops weight in the winter but she would lose her mind if she had over 2.5lbs in a day (regardless of the amount of work she was in. Super bizarre, I know). When my BO saw her again after about 8 months, she was floored at how in shape she still was and how wonderful her coat is. She has kept her topline for the entire year when usually she completely loses all muscle around her withers when not in work.

Ultium has 12.4% fat and 12% protein. I have never had either of my mares get any sort of hot on it and my BO has switched her horses over to it because of how they look. It does have some rice bran in it, so I'm not sure how that will affect him.
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Why not just add extra oil to the TC low starch feeds?
You can also feed sugar beet, alfalfa or grass pellets which are all good for weight gain
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post #6 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:15 PM
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I think Ultium has molasses in it.

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I think Ultium has molasses in it.
I'm trying to find that out.

ETA: Oops. Darn. It was broken in two in the ingredient list so I had to really scan for it to notice. Yep, cane molasses is an ingredient. I do wonder how much it would bother him. Several horses I board with are pumped full of Ultium every day and stalled almost 24/7 but remain extremely level headed. Unless it is an allergy, which I know one member does have a mare allergic to molasses, then disregard this.
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post #8 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:29 PM
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Ultium is a good feed, but I don't know if I would feed it to a horse prone to laminitis.
I used it feed Ultium, but when Mona was having feet problems, I switched to the Triple Crown low starch. I eventually took her off everything but hay and her supplement, but she's a super easy keeper.

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post #9 of 14 Old 05-20-2014, 11:53 PM
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I can do some research on it. I had my 12.3hh and 600lb (at the time) Fjord getting 6lbs a day last summer to get her up to a healthy weight. It wasn't until she had finally gained most of what she needed before she had any noticeable issues with her feet and even then it was just the slightest of rings on her front feet. She got cut way back and has yet to have an issue with it.

I am also biased in that I have had a ton of luck with it as a feed and I don't know many people who feed Triple Crown and the people I do do not board with me, so I don't have a whole lot of experience with it.
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Thanks for the replies! Yeah Ultimum seems good fat wise, but I really need to avoid feeds with molasses as he's so sensitive. I've thought about adding oil to his feed but I figured I'd ask around and see if there's another grain that would suit my needs without it first :)

A bit of rice bran is fine, but in the amount I needed to feed him to get the desired effect (2lbs a day) it made him nuts lol
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