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post #1 of 9 Old 05-14-2014, 12:51 PM Thread Starter
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Hitting a wall with horse's weight gain

So first let me state that this particular mare that I am talking about is the one and only horse that I board for a friend. She is extremely busy and doesn't have a lot of time to spend with the horse right now. I sold her this horse about 6 years ago and feel obligated to help how I can since she is what I call a "VERY GREEN horse person".

The horse, Lilly, will be 7 this June and came to me from a boarding facility very underweight, greasy nasty hair, no muscle tone, etc. She wasn't emaciated by any means, but a underweight horse in any sense is unacceptable to me.

Well Lilly's owner is very adamant about not putting her on something that will make her "crazy" and she isn't even sure about graining her or anything. So I put her on SafeChoice original, that's what I feel my barrel horse and we haven't had a high strung crazy horse from it lol. Well I decided to add some beet pulp to Lilly's safechoice feeding at night along with a couple cap fulls of Vegi Oil. Her poor gut was a mess when we just switched her to alfalfa when she came so we gradually started her on all of this. She shed out a lot of the nasty greasy hair and started to slick out some. Well my landlord is a very competitive team roper and his header is a Nutrena rep and suggested to put her on Empower Boost. So I have and we are just about through the bag of feed and I simply cannot afford another one for this mare. She stopped gaining weight and is just kind of stagnant now. Her teeth are fine and were done when she first came.

Needless to say I am at a complete loss with what to attempt next. Lilly's owner will pay for the feed but she lives about an hour away and the funds just aren't there to fork out for this horse and wait a month to receive the money... I have my own horses that need to be taken care of.

I wanted to put Lilly on a senior feed with some weight builder, as that has worked wonders in the past for me, but her owner says no way to senior feed.

Sooo, I am going to try beet pulp with SafeChoice again and up the vegi oil I suppose.
Any suggestions out there??

EDIT: I forgot to add, we wormed Lilly with Quest 30 days ago and will be worming her again this week.



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I would just stick with the beet pulp, SafeChoice, and the oil. Perhaps add rice bran if possible. I don't understand the owner not wanting her on senior feed, did she say why? I've had the best luck with underweight horses and hard keepers feeding Triple Crown Senior. It has a lot of beet pulp which is why I think it is so good at gaining/keeping weight on a horse

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I would just stick with the beet pulp, SafeChoice, and the oil. Perhaps add rice bran if possible. I don't understand the owner not wanting her on senior feed, did she say why? I've had the best luck with underweight horses and hard keepers feeding Triple Crown Senior. It has a lot of beet pulp which is why I think it is so good at gaining/keeping weight on a horse
The owner fed her senior feed a year or two ago and the horse got kind of hot, but the horse was 5 then and like I said, the owner is a very green horse person. I don't agree with it. I have had wonderful results with Purina Healthy Choice Active Senior with the Amplify nugget in it and the two mares I had to use it on were a little younger and had no problems. I just wouldn't feel right about going against her wishes though even though we are close friends.



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Strategy healthy edge is good for packing weight and and it did not spazz out my hyper sensitive arab.
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The owner fed her senior feed a year or two ago and the horse got kind of hot, but the horse was 5 then and like I said, the owner is a very green horse person. I don't agree with it. I have had wonderful results with Purina Healthy Choice Active Senior with the Amplify nugget in it and the two mares I had to use it on were a little younger and had no problems. I just wouldn't feel right about going against her wishes though even though we are close friends.
I've seen horses go nuts when fed Amplify or a feed with it in it, so that may have been why. I have yet to see a horse that gets hot on TC Senior though. Perhaps try and explain that there are senior feeds that won't make a horse hot? It would be a lot easier on you and probably easier in general if the horse was just on one complete feed that kept her weight at a good spot. But if she still doesn't want the horse on a senior feed then there is nothing you can do I guess.

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Strategy healthy edge is good for packing weight and and it did not spazz out my hyper sensitive arab.
I have fed that before and really liked it too. It's simply convincing her owner that it won't spazz her out.



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I've seen horses go nuts when fed Amplify or a feed with it in it, so that may have been why. I have yet to see a horse that gets hot on TC Senior though. Perhaps try and explain that there are senior feeds that won't make a horse hot? It would be a lot easier on you and probably easier in general if the horse was just on one complete feed that kept her weight at a good spot. But if she still doesn't want the horse on a senior feed then there is nothing you can do I guess.
It is tough, I know it sounds terrible but I am thinking about just getting a feed and putting it in our can and tossing the bag. I haven't ever fed TC but just today is the third time I have heard it suggested. I think it's absolutely worth looking into. Thank you.



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How much hay does she get? She may just be an exceptionally hard keeper. Can you suggest a board raise of a certain amount and up the horses hay by 10 lbs or so?my filly had to eat 3% of her weight in hay alone plus rice bran and grain to be at an optimal vweight

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Have you had a fecal egg count test done for her? You might want to make sure that you aren't feeding worms in addition to the horse. Even if you have dewormed her recently, it could still be a good idea to do the test to make sure you aren't dealing with any resistant worms.
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