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post #21 of 31 Old 03-02-2014, 01:33 PM
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does anyone use/like safe choice? or just plain oats?
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Originally Posted by kiltsrhott View Post
I would recommend steering clear of molasses if you think your horse gets hot off her feed. If you're looking to simplify your horse's diet and help her gain weight at the same time, you should look into Triple Crown's senior feed. Even if your horse is not old, senior feed is more palatable and digestible and the Triple Crown Senior seems to have a higher fat and fiber content than other brands.

Our horses get Southern States Solutions. This feed is also fairly high in fat and fiber and has done a wonderful job of keeping our thoroughbreds, and one senior thoroughbred-type appaloosa gelding in great body condition, without making them hot, and without feeding them large volumes. They're not getting good grazing right now either because of the weather. We're buried under more than a foot of snow and temperatures have been in the single digits (Fahrenheit). The horses get hay, but nothing over the top in quality and they're still in good shape and keeping warm with their current feeding regimen.

If you're really stumped, perhaps you should talk to your vet or an equine nutritionist.
You say avoid molasses but one of the first few ingredients in ALL triple crowns feed is cane molasses..
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does anyone use/like safe choice? or just plain oats?
I was once a die hard nutrena fan never bought anything else!!! When I got this mare I really buckled down and did my research!

Nutrena is not good in quality at all!!!! They change there recipes to go with there "fixed" pricing.. not to mention take a look at what they list for "ingredients" not what you would want in your horse feed!!! And safechoice is nothing safe ay all for your horse also has a quite high nsc at 22%
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Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
I like Triple Crown Safe Starch forage with their Low Starch pellets added to that - no molasses in it but high fat so good for weight gain without the 'fizz'
I add sugar beet - only a double handful of soaked and a handful of alfalfa pellets
I feed good hay but I find that if that's all they would get they would not do so well in the winter - mainly because they get bored with it plus the TC has the vitamins, minerals and oils.
I dont get it jaydee? no molass but you would give sugar beet??
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Originally Posted by copper View Post
does anyone use/like safe choice? or just plain oats?
Oat man here.....and a good Timothy hay.

Unfortunatly I dont get along well with the processed feed crowd.
I like too know what I am feeding my horses.
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I agree with amigo. I really started researching feed when I raised dairy goats. We drank the milk, so I really liked knowing what went into them. When companies use products such as processed grain by products its a big turn off. I would just give her a good vitamin mineral mixture, some hay pellets and flax. Flax is really good for their gut in addition to hooves and coat. Horses arn't meant to digest a bunch of processed grains. They're grazers. grass and hay.
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Hi Sparks:
That is sooooo coooool, a goater.
I had a couple of milk goats many years ago when I was learning how to haul timber with horses out of the woods. The kid had bad colic, the goat milk cleared it right up.
My brother and his wife have a goat dairy farm, sell goat cheese at the farmers market.
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post #28 of 31 Old 03-03-2014, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by amigoboy View Post
I dont get it jaydee? no molass but you would give sugar beet??
You can buy Sugar Beet that has no added molasses - sugar beet is what's left after the company has removed the 'sugar' from it but it was practice in the past to add molasses back into it but over the years molasses has been more and more exposed as a factor in IRS and horses that get too 'hot' so it is now possible to buy the product without the molasses
Feeding that type of sugar beet is approved and recommended by the UK Laminitis Trust
For the person who seemed to be confused with the Triple Crown Feeds - you need to buy the correct ones that are molasses free.
Safe Starch Forage Feed With Vitamin Fortification From Triple Crown | Triple Crown Nutrition
Triple Crown Premium Chopped Grass Forage- For all Feeding Needs. | Triple Crown Nutrition
Feeding Horses: Triple Crown Forage Cubes Keep Feeding Horses Simple. | Triple Crown Nutrition
Triple Crown Low Starch Horse Feed Formula- High Fiber, Pelleted Feed | Triple Crown Nutrition
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I feed unmollassed sugarbeet to my 14 ty old TB and halflingers, it is a very versatile high fibre feed (I use the soak overnight type rather than the quick soak shreds).

My Tb lives out and this year with a field of mud to deal with it has been a challenge, to keep her weight on I either add linseed (flax) or oil and recently grass nuts.
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Thank you for the links jaydee.
I checked out what is claimed to be inside the bag which is pretty much 2-3 differant typs of grasses - supplements - rice bran - fish oil & in a couple of bags Oats o and the Garantee Analyses Numbers.
I wonder if anyone has ever taken a handfull out of the bag and sent it in for analyses? I can pretty much garantee the numbers will not add up.
Too me it seems like pretty expencive processed hay, nutrition does not handle processing very well.

Beet Pulp....been through this a few times before, will keep it simple:
As you say its what is left over after extrakting the suger.
Fiber, yep, but you can get that with a good hay and it would be cheaper.
There is really no nutrition in beet pulp, some protien, fat, trace elements and yes there is still some suger (evidently they cannot process out all the suger...nor some of the sand which horse owners here in Sweden have been finding out).
And it has to be soaked before feeding. The trouble with that is the horse will not produce saliva which is needed as a nutural agent to prevent gastric ulcers.

I have looked over and studied what is on the market and I always come back to the same conclusion......"I see no advantage in feeding my horses bag feeds".

I know I am a Stick In The Mud (old ways, oats & hay) but if it works....(Iv always had hard working horses)...why change it.
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