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    03-19-2011, 01:23 AM
  #1
Foal
improper feeding or was cruel

I left my 3 horses in the care of my neighbor while I was out of town for work for 3 months. Got back last week and the horses were skinny . Found out that they got half bale of hay and 1 scoop of sweet feed and corn mix per day for all three not per horse for all three
of them
I wormed them a week before I left and hoofs done they looked good and healthy . They have a small field to stay in and stalls for each, the field got destroyed this winter mostly mud so all their food was feed to them
They said they watered them but it's hard to believe them I'm guessing they were drinking out of mud holes .

What my problem is my other neighaber called humane socitey so they came out yesterday and they were wanting to take them I talked them out of it they talked to my vet he backed me on my care[my care is good stall are clean now my field is bad .their hoofs look ok and not warm.

I got to get the horses back to health . Should I exersize and feed them their vitiams and hay .vat comes out monday

Any help on feeding them would help them
     
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    03-19-2011, 01:28 AM
  #2
Banned
I would not exercise them until their weight is better, as you are just burning the calories they need right now.

Did you make a police report against your neighbor?
     
    03-19-2011, 06:32 PM
  #3
Foal
I would slowly increase them back to what their original feed was, plus maybe a little more, until their weight is healthy. I would maybe do a 1/4 scoop increase a day until back to normal. Make sure they are getting 1lb of hay per 100lbs of body weight (which should also increase as their weight increases). If you can get alfalfa I would mix some alfalfa in with their regular hay (maintaining the calcium/phosphorous ratio is important, phosphorous cannot be absorbed without calcium and the body will get its calcium from stores [bones!] when calcium is deficient, grass hays are generally high in phosphorous, so adding calcium rich alfalfa is a good way to prevent bone demineralization, plus alfalfa is protein rich, and nutrient rich in general).. I would also get some first cut grass hay if possible (which of course, probably has all been sold already, so alfalfa may be your best bet). Calcium:Phosphorous ratio, should at least be 1:1, but can be as high as 2:1, as long as you don't exceed 7:1.

You can look into some fish oils, Flax meal, Cottonseed meal, Safflower seed meal, Soybean meal, which are all high in protein. Again with these, just watch the Ca:Ph balance as some are low in both or inproportionately high in phosphorous (Fish oils, I believe). You can always mix molasses or something sweet in to the meals if they are untasty. Just make sure you know the nutrient contents of what you are feeding, so you can tell your vet and he can advise you to raise or lower one thing, or cut another out completely, until they are back to health- then you can put them back on their normal maintenance feeding routine.


Ca:Ph ratio
Understanding the Calcium-Phosphorus Ratio - Susan Evans Garlinghouse
     
    03-19-2011, 07:50 PM
  #4
Started
I am so sorry for your horses. I would start free feeding them grass hay, and throw them a couple flakes of alfalfa in the morning and a couple at night. The best thing to do if you can is weigh your food and your horses, to make sure that you aren't under feeding them. As for the grain, I would keep them at whatever level they were getting before you got back home, and just see how much upping their hay helps them out. I would definitely lay of the exercise until they gain some more weight especially if they haven't been doing anything to date.
I had something similar happen a few years ago, I was gone for a week, and had a friend who knows horses feed and take care of my ONE horse while I was gone, and when I got back a week later, the plywood around his stall (we had a goat) was chewed down as close to the rail as possible, and his 100 gallon water trough was completely bone dry, and as I was feeding pellets at the time, we had half a bag of pellets that was opened when we left, and several other unopened bags, and when we got back, there was no new opened bag, and there was still food left in the bag that we had opened before we left. My friend (no longer my friend) claimed that she filled up the water thing the night before, which she obviously couldn't have done, otherwise there still would have been water in the 100 gallon tank. A horse doesn't drink that much water in a day, and that she had fed. I personally don't believe that she fed much food at all, nor did she water my horse as she was supposed to. Made me so upset when I got home. I'm just glad that you were home when the humane society came by, so you could talk with them, and you didn't end up coming home to find out that your horses had been seized. If you can, I would press charges against your neighbor, or at least in some way hold them accountable for what they did while you were gone. Best of luck to you.
     
    03-19-2011, 08:11 PM
  #5
Green Broke
Are the neighbors horse people? Or were they just doing you a favor? Is it possible that if they didn't know any better, that they got your directions confused and thought that was supposed to be for all three, not just one? I'm not saying what they did was right, but we don't have all the facts. Everyone that is wanting to go after the neighbors, they honestly may not have known any better. If they did know exactly what they were doing, then by all means I would file a report. It just doesn't sound like they knew, since they were coming out each day and giving them something, it just wasn't the right something.

I agree with free choice grass hay and add some alfalfa as a supplement and then add your feeds accordingly. Just don't make too many changes too fast. Remember that you won't see changes overnight, so give things a chance to work before you add other things to it.
     
    03-19-2011, 08:19 PM
  #6
Started
I don't know how you left directions with them ididasku, but I know that when I leave I always leave a detailed sheet of paper with what to feed, when, how much, where its located, what animals get what, how often to fill up the water, emergency information ect., basically as detailed as I can get about the animals what they need and when, and how they normally act, and how quickly they normally eat their food and such so that the caretakers have a better idea of what needs to be done, and there are no excuses. I leave one tacked up in the feed shed/tack shed, wherever the feed is left, one in the house if they are going in the house to take care of other things as well, one directly with the caretakers, and I notify family, or close friends that I'm leaving, and if they could just go by once or twice and check up on the animals and make sure that they are doing okay. My family is not huge on taking care of horses, so I always paid someone else to come by and do it for me, but my family could still keep an eye on things for me to make sure that they were being done the way I specified.
     
    03-19-2011, 08:21 PM
  #7
Foal
I'm so sorry to hear about your horses! I'm glad you were able to talk directly to the animal control officers.

To return your horses to their previous condition, I would give them free choice grass hay (any kind will help fill their guts), and slowly increase their grain ration back to where it was. If you are assuming they didn't get any grain, start them with 1-2 cups of whatever feed you use, 4-5 times per day. After several days of that, you can increase by a cup (or lb) every few days/week, and so on. Once they are eating their "goal' amount of grain in their 4-5 feedings, then increase the amount, but decrease the number of feedings until they are back to their old system. I always believe in beetpulp, and free choice hay, but I have also grown to like the response to chopped hay forage from my little "rescue" mare. You shouldn't have too much of a worming issue- once they are eating regularly and feeling a little stronger, you should be able to worm them with some thing mild- strongid or panacur, and then get back to normal within a month or so.

Good luck! I hope your neighbor is catching h***!
     
    03-20-2011, 12:30 AM
  #8
Foal
Thanks all of you for the help
as for the neighbor ,lets just say he is eating thru a straw for the next 5 weeks I guess he will find out what it feels like to go hungry and not able to do anything about it.
Try to get pic soon
     
    03-20-2011, 12:43 AM
  #9
jdw
Weanling
Just a thought since I worked for a municipality for a long time; ask the animal control folks about putting something in writing and on file in their office regarding your side of this mess. Also ask for a copy of their report to keep in your own records along with a copy of your letter you give to them. This way, years down the road if anything weird comes up, your name will be completely CLEAR and not something someone distantly remembers you and your animals being abused/turned in. Just a thought; it's what I would do. (Actuial facts get distorted in time without something in writing.) Sorry this happened to you and yours!
     
    03-20-2011, 06:36 AM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by jdw    
Just a thought since I worked for a municipality for a long time; ask the animal control folks about putting something in writing and on file in their office regarding your side of this mess. Also ask for a copy of their report to keep in your own records along with a copy of your letter you give to them. This way, years down the road if anything weird comes up, your name will be completely CLEAR and not something someone distantly remembers you and your animals being abused/turned in. Just a thought; it's what I would do. (Actuial facts get distorted in time without something in writing.) Sorry this happened to you and yours!

That is definitely a great idea!
     

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