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    06-14-2012, 01:52 PM
  #11
Weanling
It just seems so strange to me that I know of so many horses loosing weight. I know at our barn they are well fed and watered, wormed etc teeth floated etc and the only thing that is missing are the salt blocks. We are boarders just so you know we are not responsible for the other horses at our stables.
     
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    06-14-2012, 09:42 PM
  #12
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I don't have any ideas for you, but Digby said he'd be happy to pass on some of his hay belly to Lacey if that would help.

He wanted me to send this pic to show to her that on the off chance her mom was using a slowfeeder haynet, it is still possible to pack on some weight... ya just gotta pick carefully and thoroughly.
I told him her mom wasn't using haynets, so he wants to show off his new man hat instead.
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    06-15-2012, 12:46 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Eileen    
It just seems so strange to me that I know of so many horses loosing weight. I know at our barn they are well fed and watered, wormed etc teeth floated etc and the only thing that is missing are the salt blocks. We are boarders just so you know we are not responsible for the other horses at our stables.
A salt deficiency can lead to weight loss as the horse is missing things like iodine, chlorine, selenium, sodium, etc. which are important in their diet. FeedXL and experience taught me that one.
     
    06-15-2012, 01:00 AM
  #14
Trained
If you're seeing 'lawn clippings' in her poo, are you seeing quidding around the pasture (where she chews and drops wads of grass)? I'd be having her teeth checked and looking at a Senior Feed for her, based on what I've read so far.
     
    06-15-2012, 01:21 AM
  #15
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No quidding! :) I've actually never seen her quid, even when her tetth hadn't been done in 3+ years (last year was the first time in the then 3 years I had her that I was able to get hr teeth done). I've seen other horses do it so I'm familiar with what it generally looks like. I sometimes wonder though if her mouth melanomas could be kinda holding them in since the melanomas make those flaps by the corners of her mouth HUGE - the biggest the vets ever seen.

Digby looks great Lockwood! I'm so glad he approves of his "man-hat". Lacey likes that they're twins now!


Sky helped me out with the FeedXL thing and it appears like Miss L is getting way too much protein and is probably deficient in several other areas. So I'm going to take steps to remedy those areas and hopefully extra fatso Lacey'll be back soon!
I took her some salt (hah, I maaaaayyyyy have absconded with the majority of my mother's salt that was stored in the cupboard...haha) and let her lick it, which she thought was absolutely great. I also put a tablespoon of it in her feed and she was not a fan of that. I guess I should have worked up to it. Haha
Anyway, she got a good amount of salt today and I plan to start adding it to her feed on a daily basis so if that's the culprit, we'll know.

I did run out of time to fill up that other water tub but that'll happen tomorrow for sure (I got up there to see her and one of her back legs was COVERED in blood - I think she stepped on herself/slipped while getting up because there's a shallow, but bloody, cut on her fetlock with the sort of curved look a hoof might leave. I got her all cleaned up but that took a good hour out of the 2 hours I had to spend with her today).


Another thought I had was that, worst case scenario, she may have an internal melanoma doing something to her digestive system... I think the statistics of gray horses her age with internal tumors are basically about 100%, it just depends where those tumors are. I'd hate for that to be the case but at the same time, I don't want her to be put down after some dramatic incident. I would much prefer for her to gradually get skinny and have to have her put down before she gets too bad. Of course, steps will definitely be taken to rule everything else out first. She's supposed to live to be 40 (at least I made her promise that she would...haha) so she has 13 more years to go!

I'll call the vet and talk to them tomorrow. Her teeth were checked this spring and were deemed to be acceptable, but I'll talk to them and see what they think.
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    06-15-2012, 12:39 PM
  #16
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Dig and I are sending healing thoughts her way for the new leg booboo.
We are also thinking positive thoughts that minor tweaks are all that is needed to get the fat back. Do you think the new Safechoice Special food is helping or hurting the issue?
I got the coupon too, but never could find it here.
     
    06-16-2012, 11:33 AM
  #17
Super Moderator
Aww thanks. She wasn't sore on it anymore yesterday so yay!

I'm not sure about the Safe Choice... I don't think it's exactly hurting the issue but I don't think its helping. I'm not feeding even close to the recommended ration of it soooo it's probably not the most balanced thing... But, since Lacey is generally a lil fatty and the SC stinks of molasses, I don't want to give her more than she absolutely needs to get her supplements...

On the plus side, yesterday, after I gave her a ridiculous amount of salt on Thursday, she seemed much perkier. It was hot yesterday and she functioned better that I had anticipated in that as well. So maybe she just really needed salt... I'm going to give her tablespoon of salt in her feed from now on so hopefully that'll do the trick...
I'm also going to get FeedXL for the month, just to play around with it and get information on what I need to change to make things better since according to Sky's FeedXL calculations, Lacey is deficient in a few areas beyond just salt. She's also getting way too much of a few other things and that can't be great either.
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    06-16-2012, 11:42 AM
  #18
Weanling
Went yesterday and got a salt block and put out in the paddock for Toby and her horse buddy, they couldn't even wait until it was unloaded. I bought just a regular salt block but I woundered about getting a mineral block also. What is the general thought on that. I appreciate any input. Thanks.
     
    06-16-2012, 10:42 PM
  #19
Weanling
Anyone know how good a Redmond Rock is?
     
    06-16-2012, 11:57 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by Eileen    
Went yesterday and got a salt block and put out in the paddock for Toby and her horse buddy, they couldn't even wait until it was unloaded. I bought just a regular salt block but I woundered about getting a mineral block also. What is the general thought on that. I appreciate any input. Thanks.
I use a brown mineral salt block designed for horses. We are deficient in selenium and copper where I live and my past experience with animal nutrition has taught me to pay attention to the details.
Many animals survive just fine without a specialized salt block, but I believe good balanced nutrition sets an animal up to be as healthy as it can be from the inside out.

If you are not sure what your area is deficient in, or which is best between plain or mineralized, give a quick call to your horse vet. He/she, or one of the techs, should be able to answer that for you right over the phone.
     

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