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        11-18-2013, 04:33 PM
    Originally Posted by Corporal    
    Cut the grain. Get a Vet out to check on him. Feed ONLY good quality grass hay, or grass/alfalfa mix. Keep putting it out free choice and let him eat as much as he wants. There are still hay shortages, so I won't argue. DO your HOMEWORK and buy your hay initially from feed store that also carries hay. Have your VET teach you about hay quality. (I like to get opinions from the horse people who are not selling the products.) Also, get AT LEAST a block of salt. I have free choice salt in a block in my horse's shelter's hay manger all year around, and we get decent snowfall here in central Illinois. If there is a University with an AG department, GET ON THE PHONE and ask questions. The University of Illinois Vet School Dr.'s will talk your ear off, but you can learn a LOT. There are also Community Colleges that have Vet Tech programs and you can get some help from them, too.
    Your horse is young and Can recover. Even so, it ALWAYS takes more time to put back weight than it does to lose it.
    Corporal...the OP is in Cyprus....
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        11-18-2013, 05:00 PM
    I do not like hostility. I asked for help because I cannot get help where I am. At least some cheap one. A vet visit will cost around 300usd or more. Vets for horses in my island are rare and expensive.

    Also I just got into horses, I have zero to little experience with them.

    In any case I will keep the people who are actually helpful postet about the actions I will take and the status of my horse.
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        11-18-2013, 05:09 PM
    Hind gut acidosis is the very likely cause imo. Not sure what is available there to treat it. I would like to ditto another healthy horses poo for best probiotic tho. Vets will tube the strained poo juice directly to the belly of sick horses with the hydrolic poops. Saves lives. They also do this to humans. Dunno if that would help hindgut acidosis or not tho.
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        11-18-2013, 05:29 PM
    If you can get inexpensive human probiotics in capsule form, empty 7 capsules daily into the feed for 5 days. This is cheaper that a tube of "horse" probiotics. Most OTTBs have ulcers. I feed oats. Oats are the only additive that will heal hind gut ulcers. Omeprazole works for stomach ulcers.
        11-18-2013, 05:44 PM
    My horse likes eating poop all the time. Is it a good idea to pick up some poop from the other horses and have him eat it?

    I will ask a friend that owns a pharmacy how much human probiotics will cost me. I will post soon pictures of his feed, hoves and whatever else may be useful.

    Thank you again for the help
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        11-18-2013, 06:41 PM
    I just want to say you're doing a great job :) Takes a lot of courage to come onto a board with a bunch of people and ask questions. You've gotten some fantastic answers from some of the members here. I, too, can hardly wait to see progress pictures with this boy! I think he will be stunning!

    Keep up the great work Geocy!
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        11-19-2013, 11:03 AM
    He is eating his own poop because he is hungry. Fairly common behavior in hungry and bored horses.

    You want poop from another horse. A healthy horse will have a bountiful of healthy bacteria in his poop.
        11-19-2013, 11:27 AM
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    Horses don't always eat poop because they're hungry - it is often a habit they pick up because they have been hungry at some time in their life and resorted to eating poop because there was nothing else
    It can also be a need for the bacteria in it that they are deficient in and will continue as long as he isn't keeping enough healthy bacteria in his gut - hence the need for feeding probiotics to get him through this
    A horse like this would do better on free access to hay 24/7
    A low sugar feed is better for him as too much sugar can cause sloppy poop
    I would treat him for ulcers - if you can't buy omeprazole off prescription there you might be able to buy ranitidine. Other than that magnesium and calcium supplements will help reduce acid
    If you feed oats then boiling them in a pressure cooker makes them more digestible
    If he's been on the same grazing all the time he's had worms then its going to be contaminated now and he'll likely need more regular treatment - he may have encysted red worms (will cause sloppy poop) which will need a different worming strategy
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        11-19-2013, 01:04 PM
    Hello again, and thanks to everyone for your replies.

    As from today, I am adding poop from the healthy horses under a little bit of straw to encourage him to eat it.
    Tomorrow the farrier is coming to check on him, and propably he will get horseshoes on.

    I have some more picture for you.
    This is what he has to eat..

    I also have bought this supplement. At the vet pharmacy they told me that it will do him good. The guy that owns the farm says that we should wait until he is ready to get some exercise, so he will have more energy. Is anyone familiar with this one? What are your thoughts?

    This is a picture how his poop is like

    And finally here are some more pictures of Achilleas, after one month that he has been in our care.

        11-19-2013, 01:07 PM
    Sorry, didn't notice that you were in Cyprus. Oops! Good luck with him. Straight hay, salt and clean water and he should make slow progress. Many horses live on oat straw and do perfectly well without any grain. They NEED low protein and roughage bc they eat ~8 small meals/day and the gut must keep moving. He's a pretty boy!

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