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    10-17-2012, 09:07 AM
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need to find a new feed... help!

The horses at my barn are currently on a "homemade" feed that has done very well for them. But now our local store is no longer carrying this feed for some reason
So I need to find a different feed. I currently have Hunter on a mix of the "barn feed" and triple crown senior. Its helped him gain weight but I'm not sure if I should just bump this up or switch him completely. He is a very hard keeper but keeping him on alfalfa has helped his a bit.

Locally we also multiple triple crown and Seminole feeds. Any suggestions are appreciated! I've gotta figure this out soon. Thanks!
     
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    10-17-2012, 09:15 AM
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I really like the Triple Crown line of feeds. A friend of mine has seen it work miracles on her 33 year old appy.
     
    10-17-2012, 09:18 AM
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I would stick to the triple crown feed if he's used to it and it suits him
Can you find out what was in the 'made up' feed?
If not you could try adding beet pulp, hay stretcher pellets, rice bran, chop to it, introduce gradually and increase or decrease according to results
     
    10-17-2012, 09:47 AM
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my horse may have cushings..

Hopefully this link works. I'm on my phone trying to do this lol... it has pics of the feed bag. I am only thinking about the fact that a lot of people are against sweet feeds so I'm interested in hearing other's opinions on different feeds
     
    10-17-2012, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by amp23    
my horse may have cushings..

Hopefully this link works. I'm on my phone trying to do this lol... it has pics of the feed bag. I am only thinking about the fact that a lot of people are against sweet feeds so I'm interested in hearing other's opinions on different feeds
It sounds pretty much like a lot of the new complete feeds that are on the market now and aimed at horse with metabolic and cushings type issues or people that want to go by the prevention is better than cure route
I feed a Sentinel feed that would work like that one - available from Blue Seal but there are quite a lot on the market now as more people are becoming aware of the risks of feeding sweet feeds to horses that aren't working hard enough to utilise all that sugar & starch or horses that may have a genetic disposition to metabolic syndrome & laminitis
     
    10-17-2012, 11:01 AM
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So do you think that triple crown senior would be a good feed to solely feed him? He is 18, worked about an hour 3-4 days a week, a hard keeper, and possibly cushinoid (haven't had the money to get him tested for sure- if he is, he's in the beginning stages) so I want to keep that in mind while figuring out the best feed for him
If not, what should I be looking for in a feed?
     
    10-17-2012, 11:09 AM
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Oh Geez, I see my own Press on your link

My thought is to keep your horse on the TC Senior.

One thing I am going to partially back-peddle on is the feeding of ration balancers, and that is due to the high protein content.

My horses are on 22 acres, so plenty of room to "blow the stink off" as mom used to say. One of my horses went absolutely ballistic in the pasture the other day and he had only been completely switched over to Triple Crown's 30% for 7 or 8 days.

I mean ballistic --- I had to go out on the 4-wheeler with the buggy whip and separate him from the other three

It finally hit me, it had to be a reaction to the 30% protein in that otherwise healthy ration balancer.

He is now on Triple Crown Senior and my poor 26-1/2 yr old Arab is the one stuck with finishing up the bag of 30%. He needs the protein anyway, so I am mixing it 50 -50 with his TC Senior.

You can also always add in some equine rice bran for fat. Rice bran is 22% healthy fat and provides the horse cool energy, as opposed to making them psychotic - lol lol

I'm laughing now but Rusty was in such a frenzy the other day, I honestly expected him to jump over me on the 4-wheeler, when I separated him from the others

He was an angel yesterday - we'll see what today brings as he is my A.D.D./BiPolar horse, full of allergy issues anyway; I have to be really careful what he eats
     
    10-17-2012, 11:17 AM
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I'm a huge Nutrena fan. I use their SafeChoice for all of mine now, but I've used both the Prime and the Senior with a lot of success. I definitely recommend the SC or Senior by Nutrena.
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    10-17-2012, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
Oh Geez, I see my own Press on your link

My thought is to keep your horse on the TC Senior.

One thing I am going to partially back-peddle on is the feeding of ration balancers, and that is due to the high protein content.

My horses are on 22 acres, so plenty of room to "blow the stink off" as mom used to say. One of my horses went absolutely ballistic in the pasture the other day and he had only been completely switched over to Triple Crown's 30% for 7 or 8 days.

I mean ballistic --- I had to go out on the 4-wheeler with the buggy whip and separate him from the other three

It finally hit me, it had to be a reaction to the 30% protein in that otherwise healthy ration balancer.

He is now on Triple Crown Senior and my poor 26-1/2 yr old Arab is the one stuck with finishing up the bag of 30%. He needs the protein anyway, so I am mixing it 50 -50 with his TC Senior.

You can also always add in some equine rice bran for fat. Rice bran is 22% healthy fat and provides the horse cool energy, as opposed to making them psychotic - lol lol

I'm laughing now but Rusty was in such a frenzy the other day, I honestly expected him to jump over me on the 4-wheeler, when I separated him from the others

He was an angel yesterday - we'll see what today brings as he is my A.D.D./BiPolar horse, full of allergy issues anyway; I have to be really careful what he eats
I don't think it's the protein that did it for your horse, though maybe he's sensitive to one of the other ingredients in TC30.

30% protein sounds like a lot, but when you're feeding 1 lb of it, you're getting 0.3 lbs of protein. That's the same amount you'd get in ~2 lbs of a 14% feed, or ~2.5 lbs of a 12% feed, and most horses on a 12 or 14% grain are getting higher amounts than that.

Even grass hay has an average protein content of 10%, so if a horse is getting 20 lbs of grass hay, he's already getting 2 lbs of protein.

ETA- I do really like the idea of ration balancers, as it separates out the 'nutrition' from the caloric intake. With a hard keeper, it can be a little more problematic to go the ration balancer route, since you should only feed rice bran in limited quantities, and beet pulp ought to be soaked. I know in my boarding situation since I don't feed my horse myself, I could never be sure that his food was getting adequately soaked every time.
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    10-17-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by verona1016    
I don't think it's the protein that did it for your horse, though maybe he's sensitive to one of the other ingredients in TC30.
I'm not totally blaming the TC 30; I think it exacerbated something that's already wrong with him ---- which the vet is trying to figure out. I didn't want to go into detail as that would have been a major hi-jack of this thread.

He has quieted way down since his last meal of TC-30 but, there is some THING not right internally with him-(
     

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