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post #11 of 25 Old 11-30-2012, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
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i know nothing of this Strasser hoofcare so i'll have to look up what that's all about especially after seeing some of the comments here. i appreciate the feedback - it's always good to see what people think on any topic really. :)
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I've known her from when she started out in Germany. She undoubtedly has some good ideas, but was very extreme and got in trouble for it. Don't know how the "movement" is now, so can't really comment on that.
She did promote some pretty neat ideas in horsekeeping, back in the time when box stall was the norm. With barefoot trimming she was known to be very radical, didn't mind a horse being down for quite some time after an initial trim. This might have changed, since it's been a good 20 years.
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that sounds disturbing (being down after a trim). meeps! O_O
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I don't know if oats are for all horses but mine does well on them. He gets 3/4 oats 1/4 pellet mix. He also gets alfalfa/grass hay which balances out the calcium to phosphorus ratio. He's very sensitive to grain but does very well on this.
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I most likely would feed oats, if I had to feed grain. Not sure if I would agree with the amounts the article suggests, that sounds like a lot
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I most likely would feed oats, if I had to feed grain. Not sure if I would agree with the amounts the article suggests, that sounds like a lot
which was exactly a big part of the article - how people would automatically feel that 4lbs (or whatever it would be for your horse based on their calculations) is a lot but that in reality (again according to the article) it's the right amount. fascinating stuff but it always comes back to what works for each individual horse. :)
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That's exactly why I said it seems much. I do calculate the energy content of what I feed. The Arab doesn't need anything extra with the amount of hay he eats and the QH a mere 2lbs. Anything more would give them too many calories and make them p-h-a-t
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i know nothing of this Strasser hoofcare so i'll have to look up
You haven't heard about trimming to precise measurements & angles - even if feet are so far out of that 'mold' that they bleed when you do? Haven't heard about carving 'concavity' into a sole that doesn't have it, even if that means you leave it this enough to yield to pinky pressure??

**I do only have her original textbook to go on, and secondhand experiences - never met the woman herself, only seen & heard trimmers that did her workshops & seen horses lamed (sometimes for many months!) from that sort of approach. I agree with Desert that she did indeed have some good ideas, especially regarding management, but as with everything, anyone's ideas should be taken with a grain of salt & not accepted as gospel. As she is a vet, so *claimed* scientific 'proof', as she was one of the earliest and outspoken practitioners/teachers when there was still so little actual research or even anecdotal stuff, it did get taken up rather fanatically by many & I think this is a big part of people's bias against 'the fanatical barefoot movement'.
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I'd be interested as to who started the tale that oats are bad for horses, the feed companies? We can't necessarily go by what they tell us because they are in the business of trying to get our money. Yes, millions have been spent on research and coming up with nutritionally balanced feeds. But these feeds at the recommended rates may better suit hard working performance horses, not our backyard buddies. Horses were fed oats because they were readily available, relatively safe and provided the working horse with protein to last it between feedings.
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I'd be interested as to who started the tale that oats are bad for horses, the feed companies? We can't necessarily go by what they tell us because they are in the business of trying to get our money. Yes, millions have been spent on research and coming up with nutritionally balanced feeds. But these feeds at the recommended rates may better suit hard working performance horses, not our backyard buddies. Horses were fed oats because they were readily available, relatively safe and provided the working horse with protein to last it between feedings.
What I was taught at A veterinary university where I studied vet nursing was that oats are not bad, but they digest 'hot' making the energy in them more readily available......they fizz....kind of like the difference between an olympic sprinter eating a Snickers bar or a tub of strawberries.....(for comparison sake: oats v. Barley) the oats digest in such away that their energy is more readily available....kinda like a chocolate bar.....
We would feed the hunters their oats in the morning before the hunt then give them barley afterwards......
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