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    12-20-2013, 09:30 AM
Green Broke
The show glo is kinda rich. I'd wait a few days and start her on an amount for a horse half her size and work up.

I sound like such a broken record but small and slowly is very important. Resist the temptation to sneak in just a little more.
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    12-20-2013, 09:38 AM
Green Broke
I would increase that one cup per day. She probably weighs 600 lbs now, 900 at her good weight. It should tell on the bag, or the tag on the bag, what the feeding rate is. It will be in pounds, so by that time we will be talking weight, not cups or scoops.
(But, truth be told, I have never weighed feed in my life.)

You will need to get a feel for what a pound of that feed looks like, and while you are at it, get an idea what the beet pulp and alfalfa pellets look like.

She may not need the Sho-Glo, butI would wait a couple of weeks to give it to her. Her system needs a bit of recharging, first. Her liver and kidneys do not need any more work, yet.

    12-20-2013, 10:54 AM
Green Broke
I weighed my ration balancer when I first started using it. One of my feed stores in town has a really good scale at the register because they sell so much different grass seeds by the pound. The feed company I use the most of also puts out a chart with the weights and cup measures of their feeds and common horse feed stuffs. Very handy thing.

You could sneak a measuring cup full into the grocery store in a plastic bag and weigh it. That would give a starting point. But I really don't think it's that critical. The chart shows there isn't a big difference in the weights in the different formulations. When you are only feeding a cup or two the weight just doesn't matter. When you've worked up to a coffee can full I'd pay more attention.


Thought about it...Greentree is probably right about the show glo. Wait. Her system doesn't need any extra work yet and the liver and kidneys are what will work filtering out any excess nutrients. She's got to get things moving and rebuild all her gut flora first. Everything she needs is in the senior feed. Add the other stuff after she has been eating well for a while.

Most arabs are pretty easy keepers. That desert heritage, surviving on near nothing will serve her well.
    12-20-2013, 11:36 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by homesteadhorses    
i think I just want to feed her the Sentinel Senior Formula, first. It has beet pulp already in it, seems like a very nice feed, so am going to start her off Slowly, I can feed her 3x a day maybe 4x. Am giving her as much Grass hay as she would like. But that's it, she is already drinking very well, but I do have a "salt on a rope" hanging on the fence line.

Maybe I will add in the extra beet pulp and the alfalfa pellets after I get her up to date on the general Sentinel Senior Formula?
If she is eating all her hay, you probably won't have to feed as much feed and bagged forage as I have to.

I she gains weight at a nice steady rate on just the Sentinel feed and hay, I wouldn't worry about adding anything else. Less is more as long as it continue to work:)

I rescued my Arab 20+ years ago, he has always been a picky eater but, the older he gets, the fussier he is; four missing molars compounds things

On a good night, in his stall, he MIGHT eat 1/3 of his 10 - 12 pounds of hay'. It takes MR. WTW and I a lot of time scrounging around the open hay bales looking for "the fluffiest of fluffies" that he may or may not like

In the middle of summer, with plenty of pasture, he kept losing weight, even though I was feeding him more than my three Walking Horses combined. I was sure he was dying of something, so I had the vet involved to draw blood and do a more thorough hands-on. She conferred with the other vets at the facility and the conclusion was to feed him more, which is why you see such an obnoxious amount of feed listed for a horse that is only 13.3H.

Since you are able to feed 3 - 4 times daily, feed her at least the 3 small meals. If she's on a dry lot, free feed her all the hay she wants.

If she eats like she's starving all the time, keep the possibility of insulin issues in the back of your mind. With her being starved, like she was, her metabolism may have gone out of control.
    12-20-2013, 12:00 PM
Just be careful not to increase too fast. She's safe now at your place, don't be in a rush to pack on weight.. it will only lead to trouble. Personally I'd start at the lowest setting and stay there, very gradually increasing over the week.
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    12-20-2013, 08:31 PM
I couldn't find a "dry" cup at the store? How big of a difference is it? ((used household cup)) I gave her about a Cup today 3 times a day today, had no problems. I want to order this, this should really help me measure out everything perfectly, I HATE the normal "feed" 3 quart scoops, Since if I ever have to tell someone to feed any of my animals, its hard to understand what I mean by "scoop" I think this would really help.

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    12-20-2013, 10:55 PM
Green Broke
Do you have a Purina dealer close by? Not Tractor Supply. I was given one of these by the Purina store. Might be worth it to ask! Mine looked exactly the same, but had the Purina logo on it. If I could find it, I would send it to you. It might have gotten thrown out in the move last year, but I will look again in the morning!

    12-21-2013, 12:24 AM
Thanks! I can check, I live really REALLY far from town, I nearest feed store is a hour away, their is one purina dealer, then our only tractor supply...i checked and looked at the feed scoops they sell, but it was only the common "3 quart" feed scoops, which are fine, if you KNOW what your giving.

But with "dixie" I want to double check and measure out everything, I was going to order the cup but with shipping it comes to $16 dollars. Which is Kinda pricey just for ONE simple feed scoop.

I think am going to hold off look around on the site, add if I can add anything else to the cart, I will just get some cup and I guess weigh out the feed and mark it with a line or something..till I can order the cup.

As for dixie, she has done great today. Got a bath, I washed her out THREE TIMES and muck and dirt just kept falling off her. I finally got it so her hair didn't feel like slime,crusty,mud...ekk. Took me a hour to brush out her tail ((which I thought I was going to have to cut, because it was one HUGE knot of hair))...but I got it combed out nicely.

I noticed even after a bath she still has SOME little bits of muck in her hair, she was completely covered in it. Little flicks of soft grey dirt bits???

Is this leftovers of rain rot or something? I couldn't brush them out, I got 80% of it washed off her. But some spots around the hips are still noticeable
    12-21-2013, 12:30 AM
Originally Posted by homesteadhorses    
i noticed even after a bath she still has SOME little bits of muck in her hair, she was completely covered in it. Little flicks of soft grey dirt bits???

Is this leftovers of rain rot or something? I couldn't brush them out, I got 80% of it washed off her. But some spots around the hips are still noticeable
Yeah that does seem like rain rot. I used Head N Shoulders bodywash to get rid of it off of my horse. It dries it out, but leaves the hair silky.
    12-21-2013, 08:05 AM
Green Broke
We are saying a measuring cup more so you don't overdose her in food at first. Gives a known amount we all can picture.

There is no exact science to feeding a starved horse other than a little bit, often and add slowly. The measuring cup helps in the keep it small and add slowly department. All horses are a little different on what they can take. All do have small stomachs for such a large animal. Little and slow is safest.

I have a cheap dollar store measuring cup in my ration balancer because it takes so little of that to feed a horse but the other stuff I just use a big coffee can. That scoop you linked to is kind of cool. You can get real measurements from it rather than the sort of measurements in an open scoop.

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