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    02-26-2012, 10:50 AM
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Thanks so much! That looks very helpful.
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    02-26-2012, 12:32 PM
That's good that you've added some alfalfa to the diet. It will add extra protein, minerals, vitamins and calories as well as increase the yummy factor.

I don't like the 400 for a foal because it is a high fiber feed designed for adult horses. You can feed it as a complete feed so the nutrients are diluted with BP and other forage replacement feeds. You're probably only getting her to eat 1# at a meal so you've got to make it count. If you stick with the Purina products, you've got 3 designed for foals. Omelene 300, Equine Jr and Ultium Jr. I would stay away from the Equine Jr because once again it's a forage relacement feed so she has to eat alot of it to meet her daily needs. It's way more expensive than hay and the hay is so much healthier for her. The 300 or UJr are both going to fit her needs. They both have a good protein souce (good lysine levels), 2 Ca:1P, moderate fiber and fat, good Cu and a decent Vit blend. Take your pick. I would even look at putting her on Strategy or Enrich 32 to get the nutrients in her instead of the 400.
    02-26-2012, 07:16 PM
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Oh good. I wasn't sure if I ought to give her just the timothy or the mixture, but since the mixture was higher quality (we've been having to settle for lower, lately because of the drought x.x) I opted for that. She eats a lot more of that than she does of the feed right now. I'm getting about a flake and a half of it, plus the grass, and 1.3 lbs of feed. As of right now she's staying about the same weight, but I really do want her to gain some. Her dam's milk was weak and there wasn't much of it to begin with, due to her overall health- so she was thin from the get-go.

We're making a feed run this Tuesday, I think. I'll compare the two and talking with the BO about which to put her on. Thanks for the information!

Some pictures of the little sweetheart: (no longer in the muddy soupy mess xD just having a bit of playtime in our riding arena slash swamp.) she's definitely in a fugly stage, shedding out and all- and she has less than stellar conformation with those crazy long pasterns and cannons, but she's one of those 'new' thoroughbreds with pretty much no bone ._. I'll be amazed if she stays sound.

    02-26-2012, 07:32 PM
They have milk replacer in pellet form also. She needs a companion with her it will help her depression.
    02-26-2012, 08:12 PM
One of my really good friends had an issue where she took in a neglected foal. The mare had not produced any milk, so from the beginning this foal was trying to eat hay. His conformation is still an eyesore, but it is coming around.

To put weight on him, she mixed soaked beet pulp, milk replacer, oats, and strategy DAILY. This has helped straighten out his legs a teensy bit, and he has put on lots of weight and generally looks better.

I would suggest getting baby to understand her basic manners, and then take her on a few walks so she remembers those manners and gets some extra exercise.

Also, try getting her feet done. If her feet get some trimming she will stand better and straighter, which will positively affect her entire conformation.
    02-27-2012, 01:05 PM
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Cmarie- she's eating the feed pretty well so I'll probably just keep her on that. And we're working on the companions ^^ they're being brought in this afternoon when I go out to work with Sour.

Cowgirl88- poor little guy! Sounds like a very similar situation to Kenzie. I might be able to mix in some beet pulp if it will make a difference, it just takes a very long time to fix. But we feet it to two of our other TBs so I may be able to just get some of that. But how much am I supposed to feed her?

Are her feet looking like they need done? Its hard for me to tell because she's so small. I'd probably have to have her sedated in order to do them at this point.
    02-27-2012, 02:09 PM
I wouldn't waste your time trying to add BP to her diet. It doesn't offer anything better than the hay does at twice the cost. It might also throw her off her feed and if she takes forever to eat, it might not be the freshest by the time she finishes.
    02-27-2012, 02:36 PM
My friend weighed her baby, then spoke to a vet about how much to feed him. She added it just as a forage to gain weight, and he was offered free choice hay as well.

Get a vet to check her for worms too, it's worth a shot to make sure she is getting the food not the parasites.

If you have a good farrier in the area, try calling him/her. Maybe you can send photos to the farrier and ask for an opinion on it changing her legs. Her front ankles are bending funny, and I'm guessing it's because her toes are to long.

This is my opinion of course, and since I'm not a vet or a farrier I would suggest finding one you feel you can trust and emailing photos and detailed reports of baby so they can help guide you through this process a bit. It might cost money for the advice, but to give this filly the opportunity at a great life, it could be worth it.

I wish you all the best dear :)
    02-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Well for the naysayers of beet pulp.This is my orphan filly at almost 3mths.After loosing her mother, She spent the 2nd week of her life in the vet hospital & lost a bunch of weight & was quite frail.Getting her back eating & finding the best milk replacer for her was a challenge.
She was fed free choice hay ,twice a day: Grain,pellet supplement & beet pulp all in a mix. In addition to her milk bucket feedings.Also don't forget Deworming every mth.

    02-27-2012, 06:50 PM
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Yeah, I'm really worried about how she's looking. The angle of her legs aren't good at all, and her hips looks strange to me. I don't see her as anything more than a light trail horse or something, which is bad news for her. With as many thoroughbreds as we have circulating around needing homes that are healthy and strong, chances for the weaklings are slim on finding homes. And I doubt that we could permanently take on a ill built horse with iffy legs.

She's already on a good wormer and although she had some at the beginning (from her mothers milk, I'm sure. Sierra was infested with worms when we got her.) she is worm free now and being wormed monthly ^^

I'll see how she does on just the free choice hay and omleen 300, and if we feel like she needs something else, we'll explore BP or possibly rice bran as she gets older. We were feeding that to one of the other TBs and my personally trained OTTB and they did well on it.

Like I said, I don't 100% trust the vet, so I'll be going off of our BO and your advice whenever I can, and when our farm vet comes out in early march for health checks we'll probably just pay for him to check her as well.

Cowgirl88- our BO does all of our farrier work except with those that are shoed and those needing corrective training since we have 52 horses at the moment. But I'll see if either of those farriers can give me some information and advice ^^

PaintedPastures- She's beautiful. Sorry to hear she had a rough start. I'm really scared for little Kenzie because she's so thin and weak looking. She looks NOTHING like any other 3 month old foal that I've seen. The colt that came from the same breeder as her came to us at about 3 month old, but he was vastly different. Muscular, high energy, thick, and HUGE. I realize that he was big for a 3 month old since his sire and his dam are tall, but he was almost twice as her and actually looked healthy. She just looks terrible.

I really do hope that I can get her on her feet and give her a shot at life though. The poor little thing sure deserves it.

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