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        10-31-2013, 07:39 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    The grazing muzzle (I have no way to separate her from the others to use a slow feeder net, so muzzle will have to do), is now permanently affixed to her face. She can eat all day long, just not a whole lot. Hoping that will cut enough calories. She WAS being fed alfalfa and grain, in a group setting, so was getting more than her fair share. Since none of the others was looking like they had missed any meals, I'm saying just all of them were being overfed.

    Here are 2 more from the same herd, neither looking particularly ribby:

    I did the grazing muzzle for my gelding he still got super fat last winter. He's a air fern gains weight looking at hay.

    The grazing muzzle didnt trim him down I swear he gained weight,that was when it was 20 and 30 below zero. His being fat caught up to him endedup laminatic this summer and is now IR.
         
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        10-31-2013, 08:20 PM
      #12
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    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    I see. The grass hay and muzzle should already help. Work would be ideal. Is she rideable?
    Physically she should be, but she's 15 and not been started, so not at this time. I am doing ground work with her and doing some light lunging too. The pasture that they are in is several times larger than their old turnouts were, so she's moving more too. I'm hopeful that by spring she should be better. I'll take dropping some weight and not having a laminitis/founder episode as a win.
         
        10-31-2013, 08:34 PM
      #13
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    Yup. Just keep watching for early signs....reluctant to give feet for cleaning, not moving much. I'm soaking my hay for my IR horse. Grass hay. Even that has too much sugar unsoaked. Pain in the hind, I tell ya.....
         
        10-31-2013, 09:45 PM
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    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    Yup. Just keep watching for early signs....reluctant to give feet for cleaning, not moving much. I'm soaking my hay for my IR horse. Grass hay. Even that has too much sugar unsoaked. Pain in the hind, I tell ya.....
    My old *Deficyt daughter foundered and WOW, that was awful to see. She did ok once we got her stable and then didn't flare too badly. I had her several years and she was able to carry another foal. I'm trying to keep this one from going down that road though, because it becomes very challenging to manage when I'm full up and right now, I'm kind of busting at the seams.
         
        10-31-2013, 10:26 PM
      #15
    Foal
    Thanks everybody for your input. My boy is about as big as your mare DREAMCATCHER ARABIAN but he does not have the cresty neck YET. Going to try the slow feeder. I actually looked at them the other day but wasn't sure. I know its in my head but I just hate to have to put a grazing muzzle on him. I think when spring comes I may just put him in a stall a few hours a day.
         
        10-31-2013, 10:31 PM
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    Originally Posted by tlvmiller    
    Thanks everybody for your input. My boy is about as big as your mare DREAMCATCHER ARABIAN but he does not have the cresty neck YET. Going to try the slow feeder. I actually looked at them the other day but wasn't sure. I know its in my head but I just hate to have to put a grazing muzzle on him. I think when spring comes I may just put him in a stall a few hours a day.
    Honestly, I would prefer to separate her out into her own yard and put a slow feeder in with her, rather that to put the muzzle on. Right now, with the number of horses I just ended up with, it's not possible. I'm hopeful that several will move within the month, and then I'll be able to control her diet with less restrictive measures. I don't like the idea of a muzzle because I'm afraid, even with the leather safety fuse, that it will get caught on something and injure her. So, I totally get what your saying, I just can't do anything else right now.
         
        10-31-2013, 10:31 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Also then I should start him on magnesium ?
         
        10-31-2013, 10:35 PM
      #18
    Foal
    I totally understand there is sometimes you have to do what you gotta do. I had my horse catch his halter on a water faucet one time. I was just letting him walk around the barn while I cleaned so I was there luckly but it was still scary.
         
        10-31-2013, 10:37 PM
      #19
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    "Three nutrients are commonly undersupplied: vitamin E, omega-3 fatty acids, and magnesium.
    Magnesium: Magnesium helps lower circulating insulin levels, which allows your horse to burn fat, rather than store it.
    Vitamin E:. Vitamin E and selenium work together; however, selenium can be toxic at relatively low levels, so be sure to evaluate the selenium content of the total diet before supplementing.
    Omega 3 fatty acids: These unsaturated fatty acids are necessary for proper immune function, joint health, and hoof and hair condition, and they also regulate blood insulin levels. Although high in fat calories, flaxseed meal in small quantities provides unparalleled support for your horse’s health."

    This is from this article on feeding the overweight horse. Chapter 17: Concentrates Protocol
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        10-31-2013, 11:20 PM
      #20
    Trained
    Magnesium for Horses | Natural Health for Equines gives a great deal of info.
    MagnesiumOxide should be available at a feedmill. Remission or Quiessence, if you can't get the MagOx. Best would be MagRestore(google it, I don't have the link).
    You'll have to fill up his storage, loose stools signal "full"
    Flaxseed, whole, 2-4oz/day. As said, for the Omegas, hoof, hair, skin, digestion, help eliminate sand.
    Salt, loose.
    Vit E...I get the gel capsules for people, to arrive at 2000IU daily.
    All that mixed into a handful grass or alfalfa pellets, soaked. And a general vit/min supplement.
    Start him slow with the slowfeeder, havd some hay on the ground, and the net full, so he doesn't get frustrated and starts pawing at it or ripping it apart. Pull some hay through tge holes, so he gets the idea. Mine prefer the nets over hay on the ground now.
         

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