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post #11 of 15 Old 11-16-2010, 11:19 PM
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Peggy Sue is the real expert here but Ill take a stab at why we do it.

The feeds we are mostly drawn to these days...the popular brands like safechoice and strategy are supposed to be a complete feed. They've got a bunch of different ingredients, all which are supposed to be beneficial to our horses. Here is what I have learned from the great people on this forum...(like peggy sue)

Most of our horses really don't need all the 'grain' we give them. I learned this lesson the 100% hard way. I had a gelding who was extremely hot and he had every right to be. He was young, not in much work and being served TONS of sweetfeed twice a day. All it took was switching to something without corn or molasses in the first 5 ingredients and the turn around was astonishing. After that, I weaned him off of grain all together. He was in work 4 days a week. On days that he worked, he got a half a scoop of grain as a treat. Without all that extra bulk and fat deposits, he gained muscle quickly and retained it much longer. We upped his hay to compensate for the lack of calories. He was basically a kitten by the time he detoxed from all the grains.
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post #12 of 15 Old 11-16-2010, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cakemom View Post
I'm paying $16 a bag, and although I have always shied away from corn I tried it on his recomendation and I've honestly never seen my horses flourish more than they do now.
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They are thriving in spite of the corn... the feed itself would be great without the corn LOL

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Which brings up a very good question, before we would go out and buy good hay and feed(natural from a mill) Why is everyone switching to processed pellets and feed?

Myh horses are on free choice hay wiht a ration balancer which is nothing more then a vitamin/mineral suppelement with added amino acides designed to "balance" the average grass hay

Horse don't need grains at all.. what they need is good long stem forage products I wish I could get a hay in my area that I didn't have to suppelement to balance the nutrition

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #13 of 15 Old 11-17-2010, 12:00 AM
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I rarely ever feed a grain as a 'daily' part of a horse's diet. My mare will get a scoop of grain on days she is worked, and that is mainly as 'treat', than anything, as she certainly doesn't get enough of it to do much more!

I always make sure they have a decent quality hay (or pasture if I can), along with free choice loose mineral. Water of course and some treats here and there...haha. But other than that, they do fine without all that extra 'stuff'.

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post #14 of 15 Old 12-04-2010, 04:15 PM
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because it's cheaper, easier for people with less knowledge, and people buy into fancy smancy packaging.

Purina puts giant pictures of meat in the advertisements for dog food, and you'll be lucky if a meat product is even listed in the first 6 ingredients. Dogs are carnivors, they can't handle more than 25 grams of carbohydrates a day, yet they are being fed around 80 to 100 grams of carbs. Then people wonder why their dog is going blind, or is fat, or has diabetes and a dull, stinky, itchy coat!

It's the same crap with people, have you ever left a package of oreos out on the counter and noticed they never go bad? Not only that, but Ants or other bugs don't even recognize them as food! Real Salmon isn't even pink, it's a light tanish/mauve color and it's died and processed be pink, Tuna is processed with Carbon Monoxide to stay red! The FDA allows over 3,000 artificial ingredients and preservatives to be added to our food without being marked on the bottle. So, if you're trying to save money buying canned food, you are ESPECIALLY being targeted by this poison. People drink milk because the dairy industry funds tests to tell us that milk has calcium and is good for us! Sure milk isn't bad, but it's filled with fat, even the fat free milk still has fat, and it keeps us fat, just like milk is supposed to... because it's meant for a 400 pound baby animal! All of our meat is processed ,chemicals and preservatives are added, and most of our vegetables in the U.S. are genetically engineered and covered in pesticides. I am sorry to say that some people on this board have no idea what a cantalope even looks or tastes like that hasn't ben engineered or sprayed, because you can hardly find them anywhere, even whole paycheck (oops, I mean wholefoods) has genetically engineered food because it can still be certified organic.

Anyway, this happens to horse feed too, because it happens in every other industry. That's why I rarely feed anything besides the best quality hay I can find.
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post #15 of 15 Old 12-04-2010, 04:30 PM
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In response to the OP - horses actually utilize fats quite well;Much better than they can utilize the starches/sugars in cereal grains.

I'm with everyone else, keep it simple. My horses eat grass 24/7 and have a mineral block. When we go away they get as much hay as they can eat, and a feeds of speedi-beet with either a ration balancer or my choice of complete feeds (hygain zero - grain & molasses free and approved by the laminitis trust). When they are getting too fat, they get Konkhes Own Trim or Ker Equishure. If I need to add weight, they get oils, or copra, or lupins, or full fat soy.
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