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        05-15-2014, 10:21 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Here are my 28 yr old Arab's before and after pics.

    This first one was taken July, 2013. He'd had his first physical in June and the vet said not to worry about him ---- right.


    I took the picture below this evening. Streeter looked like the above pic until a month ago when I took him off Nutrena Safe Choice Senior and put him on the Total Equine plus the Horse Lix tub.

    I promise he was slicked out but we went from 89 degrees to 59 degrees in one day and he looks like he's got winter hair again

    Streeter never has been a well-muscled horse, so I am amazed that his top line has come up as much as it has. The angle of the camera isn't skewing his top line --- it really has "risen" that much


    Hope this gives you something to work toward with your fella. It's going to be a matter of finding the right combination of things for his metabolism.

    I honestly would start with a vitamin/mineral lick tub in his stall. I am sure the bulk of Streeter's weight gain can be attributed to his lick tub.
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        05-15-2014, 10:53 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    I would try to stick with the feeds he eats. My old TB Loves a+m crumbles , soft to chew, and a sr feed that is produced north of me.
    You could try the beet pulp, soaked, but add karo syrup or molasses . The higher fat is great for these old horses. The sugars may not be good for them, but look at this way, if he is eating it, gaining weight being happy, what matters more, another year or two , starving, or being fat and happy for a year ? I feed my old horse what he will eat , he has gained weight.
    He is happier. I give him wheat bran, which he loves, and when it is Hot over 100, and I don't see the salt lick being used, I add a small amount of electrolytes, you can purchase them in the 'powder ' form. I also WET all of his feed. Put apple cider vinager on Siders food, he will pitch a fit.. he hates it. Applesauce, ground apples, shredded cooked carrots ( have to be soft) . I am going to see if will eat some watermelon this year. He has in the past.
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        05-15-2014, 10:56 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
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        05-15-2014, 11:14 PM
      #24
    Started
    You know, at his age, it really doesn't matter what you feed him as long as he EATS it. He's old enough that long-term really isn't a concern any more. So feed him as much as he will eat (and not founder) of whatever it is he likes. Do what you have to, to keep him happy, til you can't any more.
         
        05-15-2014, 11:15 PM
      #25
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    the sugars may not be good for them, but look at this way, if he is eating it, gaining weight being happy, what matters more, another year or two , starving, or being fat and happy for a year ? I feed my old horse what he will eat , he has gained weight.
    He is happier.
    I agree with that

    I rescued the Arab, above, 21 years ago starving and with an injured vertebra. I didn't think I'd get him thru the first few months, much less 21 years. Like you, Stevenson, I would rather provide one year of quality life than two or three years of quantity, if the quality is poor; especially when horses reach this age
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        05-15-2014, 11:20 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Walkinthe walk. Agreed. Quality vs Quantity every time.
    When these old horses get to the point that they don't want to eat , or no matter what they eat they don't keep on weight, it is time to say goodbye.
    I just had two euthed this year. They were not gaining, they were dropping weight, they were not happy. Plus I have 5 more that are on watch, they start to get unhappy it will time for them for the last Vet visit. Its the kindest thing to do .
         
        05-15-2014, 11:26 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    Walkinthewalk: WOW. That is just amazing. Gives me lots of hope for Ty.

    For those saying let him eat what he wants. I can't do that. Because he wants total junk food. I've been letting him have what he wants and he's not putting weight on. My vet doesn't think Ty's going to die anytime soon. He's in great health for his age. My vet says he's about 20 body wise other then his weight. He only has mild arthritis in his hocks and the no growing skin cancer. Other then that he's perfect.

    Ty never had an issue with weight until this winter. The ulcers took a huge tole on him. But he is still himself. And he is still happy. You guys haven't met Ty. My vet and I have and we are both firm believers that this is just a rough patch with him.

    I went shopping for him today and I'm about 250 bucks lighter but its worth this for my boy. I'm going to read the bags and finish up my new feeding plan. Ty's sampled his new feed and approves so far!
         
        05-15-2014, 11:35 PM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by Rain Shadow    
    Walkinthewalk: WOW. That is just amazing. Gives me lots of hope for Ty.

    For those saying let him eat what he wants. I can't do that. Because he wants total junk food. I've been letting him have what he wants and he's not putting weight on. My vet doesn't think Ty's going to die anytime soon. He's in great health for his age. My vet says he's about 20 body wise other then his weight. He only has mild arthritis in his hocks and the no growing skin cancer. Other then that he's perfect.

    Ty never had an issue with weight until this winter. The ulcers took a huge tole on him. But he is still himself. And he is still happy. You guys haven't met Ty. My vet and I have and we are both firm believers that this is just a rough patch with him.

    I went shopping for him today and I'm about 250 bucks lighter but its worth this for my boy. I'm going to read the bags and finish up my new feeding plan. Ty's sampled his new feed and approves so far!
    You can't do that? Which is better, a whole lot of junk food.......or just not eating?
         
        05-15-2014, 11:40 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    Where did you get that he wasn't eating? He IS eating the more normal feed options. For example he liked Dumor Equi-Stages. Its just not enough for him to put weight on without me having to feed a ton more then is healthy or Ty can even eat comfortably. So I needed options to use less grain but get more calories into him. I wanted more options.

    To many people here are looking at his age like so many people do when coming to Ty. Its like saying a 98 year old human doesn't want to take their medication because they aren't fond of it. Would you be saying that oh its fine they stop their meds because they've had a good run? No. You encourage them to keep going. Same with my horse.

    WalktheWalk has been helpful and I found one her options which Ty seems to already be enjoying.
         
        05-16-2014, 12:18 AM
      #30
    Weanling
    Have you considered copra? Marketed here in Australia as Coolstance. Is easily made into a mash, most horses like it, has a lot of fiber and good fats. Might be worth a try?
         

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