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post #11 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 12:01 PM
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Hay pellets are more concetrated calories. Alfalfa pellets provide higher digestible energy, more calories per-pound, and higher protein than grass hay. I do not feed any grains and I can tell you that many of my horses (also on free choice grass hay) will get FAT if I feed them hay pellets, and the alfalfa pellets help keep the weight on my hard workers and hard keepers.

A horse can eat more hay pellets in a sitting than regular hay and they "like" the pellets more, so they eat faster. So yes, hay pellets provide more calories to horses that are on a free choice hay diet. They also provide a healthier medium for supplements, rather than sweet feed, grains, or pelleted feed.
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post #12 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 12:52 PM
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OH I see the problem PA thinks I am replacing hay with the hay pellets and I am NOT!!! My hay is always free choice all she wants

THe hay pellets help to "carry" her supplements Remission, Heaves Powder and MSM since the ration balancer alone isn't enough "volume" and more calories in a small volume so not as "filling" as hay

Pellets also do NOT provide low stem fiber

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #13 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 04:23 PM
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No, he thinks that the horse will eat less hay if you give them hay pellets, which IME is definitely not the case, lol. They eat just as much hay as the pellets are digested more easily and quickly than hay or hay cubes, leaving their stomachs and digestive tracts quicker than the time it takes to digest hay.
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post #14 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 04:55 PM
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Charro, there are some special cases where alfalfa is not so great for horses but the majority of them actually do really well on a good quality alfalfa. That is all my horses get fed and most of them stay fat and happy with nothing else but a mineral block. For some of my older ones that are getting hard to keep weight on, I will up their fat intake but even my working horses do great with just alfalfa. I am a huge fan of keeping things simple when it comes to feeding horses. 90% of the time, there really isn't any need for the special feeds or treats or sugars that most people stuff their horses with. 99% of the time, simpler is much better for them.

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post #15 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 05:26 PM
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At the moment 2 of my ponies are on alfabeet, which is a mixture of sugarbeet and alfalfa cubes.

For one pony it is used as a hay replacer as said pony has no teeth left so he cant chew hay. It is what my vet reccomended as a hay replacement!

My young pony is getting alfabeet and youngstock mix. he is just as calm and placid as he was when I bought him, he just has a bit more condition on him now

My all get fed preprepared mixes like veteran conditioning mix, pasture mix, leisure mix, youngstock mix and race horse mix depending on thier needs. All of them look brilliant, non of them have any problems. I do think it depends on what you have available near you. Round here it is preprepared mixes or cubes. it is extremely difficult to get hold of straights.

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post #16 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 05:30 PM
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THe hay pellets help to "carry" her supplements Remission, Heaves Powder and MSM since the ration balancer alone isn't enough "volume" and more calories in a small volume so not as "filling" as hay
This I understand very well!
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I do not feed any grains and I can tell you that many of my horses (also on free choice grass hay) will get FAT if I feed them hay pellets, and the alfalfa pellets help keep the weight on my hard workers and hard keepers.
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Are you making a distinction between "hay Pellets" and alfalfa pellets or not? As I understand what you are saying, a horse will do better on 10lbs of comparable grass pellets than 10lbs of the same hay! Are you saying this? Are you saying the mechanical mastication of the hay improves the digestibility enough that the horse gets more out of it?
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post #18 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 06:41 PM
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PA I think what she is saying is that "normally" the alfalfa pellets or hay pellets are better "quality" then the hay most of us can get. Also it is more consistent then most people have access too.

10 of hay pellets would also digest faster and pass thur the system quicker which for one needing weight isn't a bad thing but it won't replace long stem fiber therefore it is not healthy

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #19 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 07:09 PM
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10 of hay pellets would also digest faster and pass thur the system quicker which for one needing weight isn't a bad thing but it won't replace long stem fiber therefore it is not healthy
It is perfectly healthy and regularly used as a hay replacement over here.

i prefer haylege personaly as it is less messy then either hay or alfalfa but none of them are unhealthy.

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post #20 of 35 Old 11-19-2010, 07:21 PM
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we aren't talking haylage we are talking actual pelleted hay ... research has shown that pellets can not replace long stem fiber ...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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