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  • Stablemix and wood chewing
  • "grass pellets" forage horse hay "long stem" -understanding

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    11-19-2010, 07:30 PM
Purdue Forage Information

Pellets. When fed as the sole feedstuff, pellets do not provide adequate particle size to maintain normal digestive health and behavior in horses. When hay or hay and concentrate are ground and then pelleted, horses chew wood, trees, and tails. Horses have an increased rate of digesta passage; consequently, they feel less full, and eat more total pounds of feed. These negative effects can be overcome by feeding 1 percent of the horse's body weight per day in long-stem hay along with any pelleted concentrate mixture or complete feed.
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    11-19-2010, 07:36 PM
Alfalfa Pellets for Horses
    11-19-2010, 11:55 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Production Acres    
Are you making a distinction between "hay Pellets" and alfalfa pellets or not? As I understand what you are saying, a horse will do better on 10lbs of comparable grass pellets than 10lbs of the same hay! Are you saying this? Are you saying the mechanical mastication of the hay improves the digestibility enough that the horse gets more out of it?
I feed alfalfa pellets, with two horses on Timothy pellets. The horses on Timothy pellets get just as fat, though the Timothy is lower in protein and calories than the alfalfa pellets. The hay I get is mixed grass hay, medium quality.
    11-19-2010, 11:58 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Peggysue    
But see the research shows that it can't replace the long stem fiber that is needed to keep the gut healthy... I am not saying it isn't done just that there are healthier options
Yes it can. The pellets she mentioned were both alfalfa and beet pulp. Beet pulp pellets DO have long stem fiber. Beet pulp can replace up to 50% of the forage in a normal horse's diet, and is the biggest source of fiber in "Senior" feeds that can be fed alone, without hay.

So, in the case of alfalfa/beet pulp blend pellets, I would say yes, they could replace hay for a horse that can't otherwise eat or digest normal hay. Cubes might be better, be not everyone can get qualitycubes reliably.

And Faye, grass cubes do have more long stem fiber than pellets, but slightly less than hay. Cubes and chopped hay are good choices for replacing regular hay when necessary.
    12-04-2010, 03:50 PM
I do not feed pellets, but I believe the barrels the user is talking about (given the fact you live in California) are filled with what's called Stablemix. My dressage trainer feeds Stablemix, and her horses look superb. If I were feeding it personally, I would add beetpulp to get the added fiber and fat you are missing. Stablemix pellets are primarily made with oat hulls and alfalfa, and they are milled in Elk Grove, CA, right by where I live. It really is a good feed, so I do not recommend against feeding it. It is definitely the most affordable pellet I've seen and they do have mixes with added trace minerals.

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