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  • Pssm and acidosis
  • My horse with PSSM is too thin

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    05-15-2013, 12:37 AM
  #31
Trained
Teeth?
Toothache can make them look colicky. I've seen it. Sweeps them off their feet. Literally.
     
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    06-26-2013, 06:28 PM
  #32
Green Broke
So we went to the vet! Did a good physical on her. She hasn't had a colicy day since her last episode. My vet said to take her off the round bale, put her out to pasture, and call if she was still feeling ill.

Even had her checked for ulcers, but none were found. Checked teeth -- they were good. Vet said she was energetic, happy, and healthy for the most part.

Her weight... Not good. You can see every one of her ribs, hip bones, and butt bones. She weight taped at 910 pounds. Vet said to up her grain. 6 pounds of Legends Performance Pellet a day, plus usual doses of oil. Build it up gradually. Keep track of her weight weekly and see if progress is being made.
     
    06-26-2013, 08:03 PM
  #33
Trained
Had to double checked if I had asked that before...has she been tape- dewormed? I would, to at least rule it out, dose her with Equimax.

Then, hindgut acidosis. Normal ulcer checks don't bring that up. Google it, and compare symptoms.
There MUST be a reason for her being so thin. Is she still working and travelling as you described?
     
    06-26-2013, 09:36 PM
  #34
Green Broke
She was wormed with Ivermection Gold (which I think covers tape worms) 4 months ago and has had a fecal egg count done recently.

She had have some of the symptoms of hind gut acidosis. But those symptoms are shared with normal ulcers and even gas colic. :/ If she has acidosis, increasing her grain won't do anything for her weight, right? She'll get worse -- weight wise, attitude wise, food refusal wise?

She's still being worked just as she had. 50-60 miles every other week, plus moderate tune ups in between. Lots of traveling -- gone four or five days at a time. 6-8 hour trips.
     
    06-27-2013, 12:11 AM
  #35
Trained
Let me find that article about diet etc for hindgut acidosis. .....there is a supplement..."Succeed", I think......off to searching....
     
    06-27-2013, 01:00 AM
  #36
Trained
So you've got a hard-keeper and nothing is helping?
     
    06-27-2013, 10:24 AM
  #37
Started
Does she tie-up at rides? Dis you ask the vet if she should still be competeing? I do not think I would compete on a horse with such issues. There is enough risk involved in endurance WITHOUT these health issues, especially with the long trailer rides.

Nancy
     
    06-27-2013, 01:36 PM
  #38
Green Broke
She's never tied up at a ride, thankfully. She tied up last summer during a conditioning ride at home. She's been heavily managed since, and hasn't tied up again. I actually was thinking about selling her afterwards, since I wasn't going to give up CTRs and needed a horse for distance.

My vet said that some horses respond better to diet therapy than others, but the vet had no problem with continuing to compete her is she responded to the diet and there was no evidence of high muscle enzymes after heavy training rides. I also received a lot of guidance from a wonderful women who rode a PSSM horse for thousands of miles -- even won a couple national championships on that horse. It can be done.

If I can't put weight on her in time for ride season though, I'm not going to compete her. It isn't fair to push an underweight horse like that.


Deserthorsewomen: reading your link!
     
    06-27-2013, 02:58 PM
  #39
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    06-27-2013, 03:07 PM
  #40
Green Broke
Read the link! Hind gut acidosis... Sounds very not good.

Let's go over symptoms:

- Colic. We did have that twice, but not before and not since.

- Diarrhea. We've had that problem in the past (a year ago), but it seemed mostly related to stress. Haven't had a problem at all recently.

- Laminitis. Thank God I have had no problem with this.

- Cramping in the flank. She sometimes does look "sucked up" during rides. But not regularly during training.

- Allergic reactions. No problems here.

- Hypersensitivity. Mildly girthy -- use to be a lot worse.

- Foul smelling manure. Nope. None of this.


So in summary... Maybe? Maybe not?
     

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