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        02-28-2013, 08:27 AM
      #11
    Showing
    I feed Progressive's ProAdvantage and am very happy with it. I had started them on TC but the dealer here is horribly inconsistent with what they keep in stock. Call 2 weeks out to order by the pallet and still couldn't get it, ridiculous. I love that I feed a very small amt (I feed less than recommended servings) just for the bit they aren't getting from the less than stellar hay crop we had this year with the drought. The largest amt of it I am feeding to 1 horse is 1 1/2 lbs per day and that is going to my 16.3hh warmblood.
         
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        02-28-2013, 10:10 AM
      #12
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
    I can say that TC 30% protein drove my soy-intolerant horse over the edge in less than ten days. I understand the math involved but my food intolerant horse did not get that memo

    It stands to reason the higher percent of protein, the higher the bottom line (number) is going to be. Pound-for-pound (which is all I feed), something that is only 12% protein will not have the same bottom line as something that is 30% protein

    I love Triple Crown and they would be my choice to feed if they would come up with something that is soy-free. Soy does not bode well with my two metabolic horses either.

    I only have one horse out of four that can eat Triple Crown and his 26 yr old self eats the Senior.

    Triple Crown is losing 75% of my business because they take a blase "yesssss, we will be sure to look into that" attitude that tells me they have no intention of producing a soy-free product that so many horses out there need.
    If your horse is soy sensitive, then yeah... it would. LOL

    Most RB's are soy based. Hard to find a soy free feed.
         
        02-28-2013, 10:12 AM
      #13
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by PunksTank    
    Really I didn't know about that - in asking around on here this is the one people recommended to me. I don't really know what NSC is ^^' but I looked it up it said: "Dietary Starch: max 8% Sugar: max 6%" is that too much? In looking at the ingredients the only one I didn't like that I knew about was the Soy, I'm not a huge fan of soy in my horses' diets, but I couldn't find a RB without it.
    The NSC is the starch/sugar content of the feed. Non-structural Carbs.

    My Lite is 9.3% and my growth is 13.9%. The growth is a tad high than I like to feed, but it's ok for a growing baby who needs it to develop properly and build muscle.
         
        02-28-2013, 10:13 AM
      #14
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
    I feed Progressive's ProAdvantage and am very happy with it. I had started them on TC but the dealer here is horribly inconsistent with what they keep in stock. Call 2 weeks out to order by the pallet and still couldn't get it, ridiculous. I love that I feed a very small amt (I feed less than recommended servings) just for the bit they aren't getting from the less than stellar hay crop we had this year with the drought. The largest amt of it I am feeding to 1 horse is 1 1/2 lbs per day and that is going to my 16.3hh warmblood.
    Then they probably arent getting what they need unless you've had your hay tested.

    The feeding directions are there for a reason. The min amount to be fed is what is required for the animal to meet it's nutritional requirements.
         
        02-28-2013, 10:16 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PunksTank    
    Really I didn't know about that - in asking around on here this is the one people recommended to me. I don't really know what NSC is ^^' but I looked it up it said: "Dietary Starch: max 8% Sugar: max 6%" is that too much? In looking at the ingredients the only one I didn't like that I knew about was the Soy, I'm not a huge fan of soy in my horses' diets, but I couldn't find a RB without it.
    Judging by the website, the NSC is 14%. Not too bad, but higher than I like to feed. Generally, I stick with 13% or lower, but my starch sensitive horse has to be below 10%.
         
        02-28-2013, 10:42 AM
      #16
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by OneFastHorse    
    Then they probably arent getting what they need unless you've had your hay tested.

    The feeding directions are there for a reason. The min amount to be fed is what is required for the animal to meet it's nutritional requirements.
    Yes, we test all of our hay. Normal years I don't have to supplement them, they are good to go with hay & a loose mineral. Drought wasn't kind on us but I still have pretty decent hay, good compared to a lot I've seen locally this year.

    Looking at the label (in the barn) Nsc content is 6% on the progressive. 2 1/2 lbs is rec amount for horses in light work.
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        02-28-2013, 10:42 AM
      #17
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
    Yes, we test all of our hay. Normal years I don't have to supplement them, they are good to go with hay & a loose mineral. Drought wasn't kind on us but I still have pretty decent hay, good compared to a lot I've seen locally this year.
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    I wish I could get a hold of hay of that quality.
         
        02-28-2013, 10:46 AM
      #18
    Showing
    One benefit of good Midwest farm dirt and putting up your own. I shudder at the thought of feeding some of the junk I've seen.
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        02-28-2013, 10:17 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
    Looking at the label (in the barn) Nsc content is 6% on the progressive. 2 1/2 lbs is rec amount for horses in light work.
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    6% is the starch content, but doesn't include the sugar (NSC = starch + sugar)
         
        02-28-2013, 10:35 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Ditto the TC 30%. Most RBs are soy based so that is just something to deal with as it comes. Lots of feeds out there are soy based so it does suck to have an intolerant horse.

    IME, TC produces the best product for the money and my horses thrive on their products. TC3 0% and our so so grass hay is a winner here with my guys.
         

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