Rice bran to add fat to diet

Oldhorselady · 03-05-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons

It's just math. 2 Cups of oil is 1# of oil. If you're substituting RB which is 20% fat, than you would have to feed 5# of RB to equal the fat (1# : .2 = 5#). You would substitute 1# of oil with 1# CC 100 (expensive!). I've tried Soweena (pig feed fat supplement) but even the least picky eater turned his nose up. I think it ran $.45/#. How fast did you get them up to the 2# and 4# of oil? Another trick to slip more oil into the diet is to just drizzle it over the hay. Obviously can't do it if they free choice or share hay. How much product are you mixing the oil in? I can hide 1 C oil with 3# senior, 2# BP and 1 gal water easily.

Thanks LHP...I have been adding oil by 1/2C increments over two weeks. I thought of the drizzle over hay, but then I'm not sure who is getting what. Maybe if I make soup? I have only been using enough water to get the alfalfa cubes moistened, not watery. So this is what they have been getting moistened:
Snickers
1.5lb RB
4 handfuls dried, hand-shredded up, then moistened alfalfa cubes
1000iU Vit E capsule, opened up and drained into food
1 TBS salt
2 cups oil

Belle
3lb RB
6 handfuls dried, hand-shredded up, then moistened alfalfa cubes
2000iU vit E capsule, opened up and drained into food
1.5 TBS salt
4 cups oil

deserthorsewoman · 03-05-2013, 09:58 AM

I found this, browsing my new horsey catalog last night:

EndurExtra� - Kentucky Performance Products

Don't look at the price, my source charges 60.43

It's 50%!! Fat. Might be a solution for you guys.
This is also the maker of the Elevate vit. E supplement.

Left Hand Percherons · 03-05-2013, 10:06 AM

I'd be turning up my nose at that too. Not too many horses will eat the beet pulp pretty much by itself. Adding as little as 1# of senior or ultium (10-12% fat) to each meal is going to make it that much more appealing. 2# of senior will contribute .2# of fat. Not terribly significant but it would account for about 1/3C of oil.

Oldhorselady · 03-05-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons

I'd be turning up my nose at that too. Not too many horses will eat the beet pulp pretty much by itself. Adding as little as 1# of senior or ultium (10-12% fat) to each meal is going to make it that much more appealing. 2# of senior will contribute .2# of fat. Not terribly significant but it would account for about 1/3C of oil.

Ok, I will be going to a tack shop in Del Mar...which is where all the race horses are, so they must carry all the high performance feeds. I've used the Ultium years ago for a hard keeper and like it. I also like the Triple Crown feeds. I will start by adding one of these to their mixture. I will also try to add Cool Cal...not to completely elimiate oil, but cut down on it. Maybe this will help. Thanks!

Oldhorselady · 03-05-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman

I found this, browsing my new horsey catalog last night:

EndurExtra� - Kentucky Performance Products

Don't look at the price, my source charges 60.43

It's 50%!! Fat. Might be a solution for you guys.
This is also the maker of the Elevate vit. E supplement.

Thanks Desert....I'm making a list for the feed store and bringing my calculator.

Left Hand Percherons · 03-05-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman

I found this, browsing my new horsey catalog last night:

EndurExtra� - Kentucky Performance Products

Don't look at the price, my source charges 60.43

It's 50%!! Fat. Might be a solution for you guys.
This is also the maker of the Elevate vit. E supplement.

But she has to look at the price. Even at $60.43, she would be paying $4.83 per # equivalent of oil. $60.43 divided by 25# per bag divided by .50 (50%). That's double the cost of the CC100 and 10X the cost of oil.

deserthorsewoman · 03-05-2013, 10:29 AM

If the ladies eat the CC, that's fine. They are not too thrilled about the oil, so I thought that might be another option. It also supplies other goodies, who probably could be cut somewhere else. It never hurts to have several options.

Left Hand Percherons · 03-05-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman

If the ladies eat the CC, that's fine. They are not too thrilled about the oil, so I thought that might be another option. It also supplies other goodies, who probably could be cut somewhere else. It never hurts to have several options.

I totally agree that you have to combine fat sources to get to the desired amount but cost is always where you have to start. If you can't afford it, you can't feed it. Maybe that's a better way to look at it. What's your feed budget and how do the products fit into that equation?

Oldhorselady · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons

I totally agree that you have to combine fat sources to get to the desired amount but cost is always where you have to start. If you can't afford it, you can't feed it. Maybe that's a better way to look at it. What's your feed budget and how do the products fit into that equation?

Yeah, I would say the more cost effective, the better....along with a combo they will for sure eat and not waste. I'm still unemployed out here after 4 months. I hope that this will come to an end next week at my interview. Then it will be a time factor once I start working and only being able to go out to the ranch to feed once a day on work days.

Left Hand Percherons · 03-05-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldhorselady

Yeah, I would say the more cost effective, the better....along with a combo they will for sure eat and not waste. I'm still unemployed out here after 4 months. I hope that this will come to an end next week at my interview. Then it will be a time factor once I start working and only being able to go out to the ranch to feed once a day on work days.

I sure didn't mean to call you out on that but you know what I mean. I see it on these forums all the time where people appear to have unlimited $$ to spend on their horses and aren't in my opinion making wise financial choices.

Good luck with the job search.

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