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        03-05-2013, 12:16 PM
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    Originally Posted by Oldhorselady    
    At only 10% fat, I would not be only feeding the TC Senior, for sure, without oil/cool cal.
    But at 10%, 5# of feed will have 1/2# of fat or 25% what the big mare needs and 50% of what the little mare needs. (you would probably only feed half of that)
         
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        03-05-2013, 12:27 PM
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    But at 10%, 5# of feed will have 1/2# of fat or 25% what the big mare needs and 50% of what the little mare needs. (you would probably only feed half of that)
    Wouldn't I have to feed 10lbs of the TC Senior to equal 1cup of oil? My smaller horse gets 2 cups of oil and my big girl gets 4 cups of oil.
         
        03-05-2013, 12:31 PM
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    LHP...what about the Ultium and the sugar? It's on the high fat Dr. V. List.
    NSC on the Ultium is 15%, TC Senior is 12% and the TC Low Starch is 13.5% (go figure).

    Lets go back to cost. Ultium runs $32/bag. At 14% fat, one pound equivalent of oil coming from the ultium will cost $4.57.
    Senior at $24/bag and 10% fat will run you $4.80 for that same # of fat. Now the Ultium is probably higher but with that price, it's the cheaper option.

    I think you're splitting hairs worrying about the NSC in the feed. It represents such a small portion of the entire diet it's a non issue.
         
        03-05-2013, 12:37 PM
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    Wouldn't I have to feed 10lbs of the TC Senior to equal 1cup of oil? My smaller horse gets 2 cups of oil and my big girl gets 4 cups of oil.
    Burn this in your brain:
    2 C of oil is one pound of oil.

    So if the little mare gets 2 Cups of oil, she is getting one pound of oil/fat. If the feed is 10% fat, than one pound of feed would contain .10 pound of fat (oil). She could get her entire 1# of fat if you fed her 10# of senior.
         
        03-05-2013, 12:42 PM
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    Why does she have to have that much fat in her diet if she's an easy keeper?
         
        03-05-2013, 01:22 PM
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    Burn this in your brain:
    2 C of oil is one pound of oil.

    So if the little mare gets 2 Cups of oil, she is getting one pound of oil/fat. If the feed is 10% fat, than one pound of feed would contain .10 pound of fat (oil). She could get her entire 1# of fat if you fed her 10# of senior.
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        03-05-2013, 01:25 PM
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    Thanks for clarifying.....I may have been thinking 1 cup oil = a pound or something. Going to an appt and feed store....I will be back later
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        03-05-2013, 01:26 PM
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    Why does she have to have that much fat in her diet if she's an easy keeper?
    We are working with an EPSM high fat low sugar and starch diet....which is not a traditional diet.
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        03-05-2013, 02:18 PM
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    Originally Posted by Oldhorselady    
    We are working with an EPSM high fat low sugar and starch diet....which is not a traditional diet.
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    Sorry to ask again - but is she confirmed to have EPSM?
    If not all that added fat might not be right for her if she's already an easy keeper
    The diet is very similar to the one for IRS horses/ponies and I have a mare with that (confirmed), she is on diet aimed at low sugar/starch and higher fats to keep her body weight good as she actually struggles to maintain a healthy weight as she doesnt utilise sugar correctly
    I feed Sentinel senior with added sugar beet, chop or hay stretcher pellets for extra bulk and just a standard amount of wheat germ oil added
    I found the magnesium/chromium supplement Quiessence has helped her a lot. I believe Dr Valentine uses that too.
         
        03-05-2013, 02:30 PM
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    Sorry to ask again - but is she confirmed to have EPSM?
    If not all that added fat might not be right for her if she's already an easy keeper
    The diet is very similar to the one for IRS horses/ponies and I have a mare with that (confirmed), she is on diet aimed at low sugar/starch and higher fats to keep her body weight good as she actually struggles to maintain a healthy weight as she doesnt utilise sugar correctly
    I feed Sentinel senior with added sugar beet, chop or hay stretcher pellets for extra bulk and just a standard amount of wheat germ oil added
    I found the magnesium/chromium supplement Quiessence has helped her a lot. I believe Dr Valentine uses that too.
    Waiting for results....even so....Dr. Valentine suggested the diet anyway after she reviewed her videos.
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