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    12-09-2013, 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by verona1016    
Beet pulp is a high calcium feed, so it pairs well with rice bran. IME beet pulp and rice bran together form a mash with a very nice consistency that can be great for hiding supplements that the horse might otherwise sift out of a dry meal.
How do you mix the two? Like how much water for how much of each?
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    12-09-2013, 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by cakemom    
I soak my beet pulp in winter in hot water and in summer in Gatorade water. We use small shred and that makes it soak fast.
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Can you give gatorade to horses like water? Obviously not instead of water but is there any downsides to it?
    12-09-2013, 09:53 PM
Endiku, calories = energy. Excess calories can therefore equal too much energy, regardless whether it's 'cool' or not.

Hannahh, yes, gatorade is mostly sugar, salt & water, with potassium & flavours added. Fair percentage of sugar. So it would depend how sensitive your horse is to sugars for a start, as well as considering whether they actually need that extra salt & potassium or whether that would cause an OD/imbalance.
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    12-09-2013, 10:13 PM
Endiku- Great job with your filly! (first off)

It's been my experience that the average horse (not under nourished, not growing, not in hard work, that is) that is fed with any too-high a protein diet (any number of supplements, not just rice bran) can start to exhibit problems that could otherwise be averted (too much of anything isn't good). I tend to be more cautious with feeds and supplements (I have a less-is-more-policy). So that wasn't directly toward rice bran, but just any any hi-protein type feed/supplement for long term use without a specific plan.

Given that we were given an open question, not really specific to any particular circumstance, I was just giving a general answer (opinion). I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to extra feeds and such- but my philosophy is to try to get as much from hay/pasture as you can and supplement from there.

I do think it's a great option to help malnourished horses gain good weight/muscle, but I personally think it's too much for the average horse. (It's got a lot more fat, and alot more protein than beet pulp).

But, I know that everyone tends to have different ideas and thoughts on things- and there are so many circumstances we could probably write a 3 part novel on feeding philosophies, lol.
    12-10-2013, 12:30 AM
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I mix powdered orange Gatorade with water. Encouraging them to drink is such a good idea. She drinks buckets of it in the middle of the day in the heat.
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    12-12-2013, 02:55 AM
Originally Posted by Hannahhh    
How do you mix the two? Like how much water for how much of each?
My barn makes a large batch of mash each night with about a 4:1 ratio of beet pulp to rice bran. Some of the horses get their own special mash with up to a 1:1 ratio, but with that much rice bran it can get a little paste-y in consistency and is a little harder to clean up after.

I'm estimating, but for pelleted beet pulp, I think it's probably about 2x as much hot water than pellets by volume. The large batch soaks for about 3-1/2 hours, though you can add less water and soak for less time depending on how thoroughly you want the pellets to break down.
    12-12-2013, 03:51 AM
Originally Posted by wausuaw    
It's been my experience that the average horse .... that is fed with any too-high a protein diet ....can start to exhibit problems that could otherwise be averted
There seem to be a few on the alfalfa/lucerne thread that beg to differ...

I mix powdered orange Gatorade with water. Encouraging them to drink is such a good idea. She drinks buckets of it in the middle of the day in the heat.
I'm curious to know, how many people have real problems that are due to horses not drinking enough? Because I haven't ever even heard of the problem before aside from recently on this forum - aside from strange tasting water at events or new places, bore water or such - and it strikes me that giving kids soft drink would encourage most to drink more too, but that's not necessarily a great thing either.
    12-16-2013, 12:15 AM
Which rice bran brand would yall recommend. I want to start feeding it to my endurance horse.
    12-16-2013, 01:58 AM
Check and see what your local feed stores carry. My preference is for a "straight up" rice bran instead of a rice bran-based product (like Nutrena Empower Boost or Purina Amplify) Stabilized is very important unless you're going through it quickly, and fortified if you're feeding a lot of it or the horse's diet is low in calcium. In my case, I could only find one store that carried a stabilized rice bran (Equine Shine). It's not fortified, which was OK for the quantities I was feeding it in.
    12-16-2013, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Faustinblack    
Which rice bran brand would yall recommend. I want to start feeding it to my endurance horse.

I fed my endurance horse Legends rice bran pellets.

I like rice bran. I have a PSSM horse who requires a ton of calories from fat. Rice bran is pretty palatable, and she ate it well during her transition to a high fat diet. Due to expense (it can get expensive to feed five pounds of rice bran a day!) I weaned her off of it and used another fat source. If it wasn't for the expense, I would have continued.

I use beet pulp for my non-PSSM endurance horse. PSSM horse doesn't like it, and it's a pain to wash the molasses off! Great supplement when forage is low quality; I feed it during the winter, mostly. I also feed it during endurance rides. Water and fiber, baby!

As far as Gatorade goes... PSSM horse can't gave it; it IS high in sugar. Quite high. Normal-horse loves it, but I don't give it to her regularly. I've heard lots of pros and cons regarding Gatorade use (in endurance horses), and no one has a straight answer about whether it's a "good thing" or a "bad idea." I've competed a couple horses whose owners swear by it, and those horses drink it by the five gallon bucket. Other owners are afraid of the sugar.

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