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  • Any history of safechoice increasing ulcers in horses

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    11-14-2013, 05:00 PM
  #11
mls
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Originally Posted by JylHunt    
Thanks for all the opinions. None of the vets have ever given me a concrete reason why he is the way he is. Most have said he's happy, has plenty of energy and everything looks fine, other than him being thin.
Likely boils down to metabolism. We are all "wired" differently.
     
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    11-14-2013, 09:07 PM
  #12
Foal
Like what was said before, I love Calf Manna. My horses are on Omolene 200 and Calf Manna, and I love it.
     
    11-16-2013, 02:27 AM
  #13
Green Broke
How do we know that Safechoice Perform (or any other bagged feed for that matter) doesn't have corn in it?

(I mean, it might not for all I know, but I would double check if your horse is allergic to corn).
     
    11-17-2013, 10:32 AM
  #14
Foal
Consensus by equine nutrition experts is that corn and corn products are not good for horses. Corn is incredibly difficult to digest and is one of the highest NSC's available.
For your horse, the Safe Choice Perform sounds like an excellent choice. I would even go a step further and top dress it with Cocosoya oil. Oil in the form of vegetable oil or Cocosoya oil (my preference) is one of the easiest, cheapest ways for a horse to gain weight.
In addition to the above, I strongly suggest adding a probiotic to his diet, especially due to his history of parasite damage. It will help him use his feed more effectively, I.e. Able to absorb more nutrients and also help with digestive stress, making him gain more weight. The probiotic I highly recommend and is the most bang for your buck is ProBalance bought at Horse.com. Good luck!
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    11-17-2013, 10:44 AM
  #15
Foal
The only thing I would watch is the oil- be sure you don't overdo it. I had talked to a vet a few months back about putting weight on a mare of mine. He said that oils are okay, but they can build up quite a bit of cholesterol. It works great, just be sure you know how much to give them.
     
    11-17-2013, 10:46 AM
  #16
Banned
Have you had this horse checked for hindgut ulcers that will keep them from gaining weight. My gelding had problems with hindgut ulcers and trying to put weight on him failed. High NSC diets will cause problems oh how I know this all to well.
     
    11-17-2013, 04:29 PM
  #17
Weanling
I recently switched back to SafeChoice Originals after feeding Perform. There's only 2% difference in fat and the protein was identical I believe. My mares aren't hard keepers but they lost a ton of weight when we switched barns. When I noticed they seriously weren't that different - I went back to Originals since it's $3 cheaper and they recently ended their $2 off on their bags.

I've had good success with one of my mares on SC Perform + Gleam & Gain. I wasn't impressed with Cool Calories. I've heard nothing but good things about Calf Manna & am going to give that a try while they're giving out $5 coupons. My other mares I just started on Max E Glo rice bran so hoping for good results
     
    11-17-2013, 07:08 PM
  #18
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
How do we know that Safechoice Perform (or any other bagged feed for that matter) doesn't have corn in it?

(I mean, it might not for all I know, but I would double check if your horse is allergic to corn).
Feed companies are supposed to list all ingredients on the feed label by law. That being said, I've gotten some bags of feed with whole corn in it without corn being listed on the label. When I contacted the feed company about it they apologized, explained that they run corn through the machinery between batches to clean it out, and offered to refund any bags found with corn in them. I wonder if the trace amounts of corn present from cleaning the machinery with corn could be a problem for horses with corn allergies even if you don't see any whole corn kernels
     
    11-17-2013, 09:22 PM
  #19
Foal
I would say that yes, corn run through the same machine as feed without corn could pose an issue for a horse who is allergic to it just as food manufactured on the same line as peanuts would for a human allergic to peanuts.
     
    11-17-2013, 09:47 PM
  #20
Weanling
I tend to stay away from most Safe Choice grains because of the high NSC, but I have heard good things about the SC Perform. Like SketchyHorse said, there really isn't that much of a difference in fat content compare to the SC Original, so you may be better off just adding a fat supplement/weight booster. I have fed Cool Calories in the past and really liked it, but to be honest the best thing that put weight on my hard keepers was good quality free choice hay. If you have Blue Seal grains or Sentinel grains in your area I HIGHLY recommend you try the Sentinel Performance LS. It is made for hard keepers, rescue horses, or high performance horses that need the extra calories. It's extremely palatable and is pressure cooked to optimize food breakdown and digestion. I have never had a horse turn their nose up to it and it has ZERO molasses so it can be safely fed to horses with Cushings, Insulin Resistance, Tye-Up, Ulcers, etc. Just a whole lot of fat & fiber with only 12% NSC compared to SC which is 28% NSC. Another thing you could try is rice bran, plain beet pulp, hay stretcher (be careful with NSC and molasses), or other fibrous/fat feeds. Also remember that if you're not feeding the recommended amount of grain that the bag suggests then you will need to supplement a vitamin/mineral ration balancer for him to get all the required nutrients that hay alone will not provide.
     

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