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        03-24-2014, 04:48 AM
      #1
    Foal
    Scrambling

    I've just had my first experience with trailering a scrambler.

    On Sunday, Andy and I were going to compete in our first ODE. He loaded perfectly with no fuss, stood relaxed alongside my friend's horse, and basically seemed ready to go. We pulled out of the driveway, and the banging began.

    We stopped 200m down the road to check on them, and I pulled off Andy's float boots, thinking he would travel better without them. But the scrambling continued, off and on and in violent bursts, around turns and down straightaways, even though we drove extremely slowly and turned wide.

    After about 20 mins of driving, we pulled over at the next town to check on them again. Andy was shaking and dripping with sweat, there was panic in his eyes, and blood smears all over the wall of the trailer. His right hind hoof was saturated in blood and he had rubbed a fetlock and a hock raw from trying to scramble up the wall.

    We unloaded him and assessed the situation just enough to realise that our medical kit was sorely understocked for this type of emergency. I had friends nearby with horse facilities so I suggested we take Andy there while my friend went on to the event. Amazingly, Andy loaded again like an angel, despite the trauma he'd been through. But the moment we began to inch forward, he fell backwards on his bum, nearly going down in the trailer. I took him out again and walked him along the road to my friend's place, which only took us about 15 min. Lucky they had a hose and yards, we could have been stuck in the middle of nowhere with an injured horse and nothing to do for him.

    I don't know why this happened! He's never scrambled before, I'd trailered him twice with the same horse, in the same trailer, the week before without any issues. He simply wasn't himself yesterday, he just could not balance in the trailer. It has been suggested to me that magnesium deficiency could have been the cause of his problems with not knowing where to put his feet. Has anybody else had any experience with this?

    By the way, the divider did not go all the way to the floor, so he had room to spread his feet if he'd wished to. When we took him home, we took out the divider so that he had the entire float to himself, and he travelled just fine.
         
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        03-24-2014, 07:25 AM
      #2
    Showing
    He was going home and he knew it. His trailering episode may have more to do with the fact that he was leaving everything that meant security.
         
        03-24-2014, 05:42 PM
      #3
    Foal
    With respect Saddlebag, I'm not convinced that's the problem. It's his balance I am worried about - the fact that he was scrambling on straightaways and nearly went down in the trailer! I have taken him away from home in the past with no issues. I won't be putting him on a trailer again until he's healed a bit more, but I'll try putting him on the other side next time.

    I'll ask again, does anybody have any info about magnesium deficiency and trailering?
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        03-25-2014, 09:02 AM
      #4
    Trained
    Yes, when I saw your thread I immediately thought Magnesium. But my 'experience' is only that I've heard the same as you from a few people - that Mg can eliminate this problem too. And windsucking too, believe it or not! I am by no means convinced that I believe it, esp for scrambling - seems a bit 'out there' to me, but as Mg is a very important & very frequently deficient mineral, as it's safe even in moderate excess, if I had a scrambler or a windsucker I'd definitely be trying it.
         
        03-31-2014, 02:35 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Thanks Loosie, he is very grass affected around springtime. He's my first horse and I'm still learning how to supplement, and because it's early autumn now here in NZ, I've been a bit lazy with making sure he gets his magnesium. I feed it to him in toxin binder powders and liquid drenches, and you can be sure he got a good feed of it after that episode. I'm going to arrange to borrow a friend's trailer and experiment a bit with him, getting his confidence back while having only half of it to himself.

    I can't afford a slant-loading trailer, so he's going to have to learn how to do it facing forward. We'll see how we go, he may only have to go on the right side from now on. But it's never been a problem before on the left so I have the feeling that he can relearn how to do it. Just need to teach him that there's no need to panic on that side.
         
        03-31-2014, 04:19 AM
      #6
    Trained
    Get onto Pauline of gravelproofhoof.org for more info, and there's Merlot from this list in NZ, who seems to know a thing or 2 about it - I'd get onto her too, if you haven't already.
         
        04-04-2014, 07:53 PM
      #7
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by loosie    
    Yes, when I saw your thread I immediately thought Magnesium. But my 'experience' is only that I've heard the same as you from a few people - that Mg can eliminate this problem too. And windsucking too, believe it or not! I am by no means convinced that I believe it, esp for scrambling - seems a bit 'out there' to me, but as Mg is a very important & very frequently deficient mineral, as it's safe even in moderate excess, if I had a scrambler or a windsucker I'd definitely be trying it.
    I hadn't heard that about windsucking. At the risk of taking this thread off topic, how much have you heard you have to supplement in order for it to have an effect?
         
        04-05-2014, 05:38 AM
      #8
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by verona1016    
    I hadn't heard that about windsucking. At the risk of taking this thread off topic, how much have you heard you have to supplement in order for it to have an effect?
    It appears incredibly subjective, as to how much Mg a horse or person needs. Basic rule of thumb for either species is that when poo gets mushy, back off a little & stick to that. Doesn't go on weight either - a child or pony can need more than an adult or horse too.
         

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