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post #11 of 19 Old 07-28-2012, 11:47 AM
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you need to be able to figure out ppm calculations to know where you stand with trace minerals. PPM refers to Mg per kg of feed. Your feed at .5 ppm provides .5 Mg of Se in 1 kg (2.2#). If you feed 6#, he gets 1.4 Mg Se. (6 divided by 2.2 x .5). He should be getting 4-6 Mg per day. If your forage can't provide the other 3-4 Mg of Se, than you need to supplement.
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post #12 of 19 Old 07-28-2012, 11:56 AM
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The amount of selenium you need to feed will depend on which type you feed and how much vitamin E you are feeding.

I feed the Platinum Selenium yeast and I was feeding over 4 mg a day along with a regular mineral supplement(which had vitamin E in it) and all of my horses levels were well below normal.........until I added 3 x 400mg vitamin E capsules......then I had a dramatic difference......my selenium levels shot up and I am now feeding only 2 mg of selenium a day.

Vitamin E is very fragile which is the reason it is in capsule form .....so if you are feeding a mineral which is a powder your vitamin E will likely be non existent.

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Wow, this is great information. Thanks!
He's getting 5lbs of feed a day for that would be a bit over 1 mg of selenium. I'll have to see where I can get the hay analyzed. I believe the college here can do that. I know his pelleted feed has vitamin e in it, but I guess it probably isn't working that well as its not in liquid form. I could start giving him a liquid supplement of vitamin e. Is it water soluble, or can I od him on it?
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Wow, this is great information. Thanks!
He's getting 5lbs of feed a day for that would be a bit over 1 mg of selenium. I'll have to see where I can get the hay analyzed. I believe the college here can do that. I know his pelleted feed has vitamin e in it, but I guess it probably isn't working that well as its not in liquid form. I could start giving him a liquid supplement of vitamin e. Is it water soluble, or can I od him on it?
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It is liquid but it is in capsule form........I just buy the big bottle of Vitamin E from Costco and give 3 to 4 (400 mg each capsule) of those a day. If your horse is out on fresh pasture then no vitamin E is needed as the pasture will supply all the vitamin E they need........mine only get vitamin E in the winter when they are in paddocks and being fed hay.

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Just watched a great video done by Kentucky Equine Research on minerals and vitamins.
Video Library: Kentucky Equine Research
Click on the arrows on the right side once and then go to the video Vitamins and Minerals.

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What great information!

What changes are you seeing in your horses?

Example- we had a "chiropractor" come to the barn to work on some local horses and stay with the BO. He claimed that the supplements did nothing, that you needed to give them the shot, and that it would "loosen the skin" to make them look like they gained 20lbs of muscle. He said the symptoms of selenium deficiency were poor hooves and the "frizzle" hair at the tail head (looks like they rub their tail).
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What great information!

What changes are you seeing in your horses?

Example- we had a "chiropractor" come to the barn to work on some local horses and stay with the BO. He claimed that the supplements did nothing, that you needed to give them the shot, and that it would "loosen the skin" to make them look like they gained 20lbs of muscle. He said the symptoms of selenium deficiency were poor hooves and the "frizzle" hair at the tail head (looks like they rub their tail).
The symptoms the farrier is referring to is for horses that have too much selenium.

Here is a good article to read.

http://www.bendequine.com/documents/Selenium.pdf

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Yes, that's why I put quotes.

I did not have him adjust my horse, as he also used "bleeding" to "fix" another horse. My chiro is a licensed vet, chiro, and acupuncturist.

For those who don't know what bleeding is, this is what I saw. He poked through the skin about two inches above the coronet band and let the blood run freely. Horse has been stalled before he arrived so the horse's heartbeat wasn't elevated. This might be another subject to keep from thread hi jacking.
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Yes, that's why I put quotes.

I did not have him adjust my horse, as he also used "bleeding" to "fix" another horse. My chiro is a licensed vet, chiro, and acupuncturist.

For those who don't know what bleeding is, this is what I saw. He poked through the skin about two inches above the coronet band and let the blood run freely. Horse has been stalled before he arrived so the horse's heartbeat wasn't elevated. This might be another subject to keep from thread hi jacking.
What the heck is that procedure supposed to fix??? An what is the science behind the procedure???

Sorry but I wouldn't let that guy on my property never mind any where near my horse.......nobody goes near my horse unless they are a licensed vet.

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