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post #1 of 17 Old 09-23-2013, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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Slimming down a fat horse.

My horse was nearly 200 lbs overweight when I bought him. We worked hard most of the summer and he only lost 28 lbs. I want to get him ready for show season next year, but he has REALLY got to slim down. Right now the BO has him on 1 qt of pellets mixed with 2 qts hay stretcher 2X a day, and 2 flakes of hay 2X a day. Plus, he is turned out 12 hours a day and grazes. Right now he exercises 90 minutes a day 5 days a week. He is always sleepy and has low energy. He is 16, so IDK if he should get any special supplements or not. But any suggestions would be awesome.
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If he's out grazing 12 hours, he doesn't need any hay before he goes out, only for the time he's in. You don't say what pellets, a feed? If so, what? And " quart" and "flake" can be very different in weight from one kind of feed/ hay to another. Example, I have alfalfa bales, one falls apart in 5 lb flakes, the other in 8 lb flakes. That's a whopping 3000+ calorie difference.
So if you could get us some more info, we can help you better.
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If he's out grazing 12 hours, he doesn't need any hay before he goes out, only for the time he's in. You don't say what pellets, a feed? If so, what? And " quart" and "flake" can be very different in weight from one kind of feed/ hay to another. Example, I have alfalfa bales, one falls apart in 5 lb flakes, the other in 8 lb flakes. That's a whopping 3000+ calorie difference.
So if you could get us some more info, we can help you better.
Um, I know it's 5 lb flakes, but I'm not 100% on the pellets. I know they are by Blue Seal, but I doubt that helps.
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Have you thought about a grazing muzzle for him while out on grass. Probley doesnt need the pellets in his diet depending on what it is. Vit/min to cover what he might be missing and some hay in a slow feeder when not on grass.

More work to help burn some fat lots of trotting helps to get them sweating.To bad your horse couldnt give my boy some of his fat mine could sure use it right now.
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Have you thought about a grazing muzzle for him while out on grass. Probley doesnt need the pellets in his diet depending on what it is. Vit/min to cover what he might be missing and some hay in a slow feeder when not on grass.

More work to help burn some fat lots of trotting helps to get them sweating.To bad your horse couldnt give my boy some of his fat mine could sure use it right now.
Yeah, we have 2 OTTB's on the property that could sure use his fat! I've never heard of a grazing muzzle, but going to look into it. I was wondering if we could just get away with the hay stretcher pellets and vit/min powder. I know if I try to cut out his pellets completely he will kick in the walls to his stall. He is a stall kicker if he feels he's being left out.
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Blue Seal's hay stretcher has an NSC of 22%. Try timothy pellets instead of the hay stretcher. Great hay stretcher for fattening an old toothless wonder. Not so great for an easy keeper.
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Um, I know it's 5 lb flakes, but I'm not 100% on the pellets. I know they are by Blue Seal, but I doubt that helps.
So that's 20 lbs of hay PLUS 12 hours of grazing.
The 20 lbs of hay would be enough already.
Grazing muzzle is one possibility. Slowfeeder for the hay, less of it, ditch the hay stretcher, a handful of the Blue Seal when all the others( I assume there are others ) eat, or, maybe better, a handful of oats. Since I don't know the details( fed before pasture, hay, pellets....how? , I can't really tell you when and where to cut. But a cut is needed, definitely.
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You could cut back the pellets to just a cup and maybe a cup of soaked beet pulp,to make him think hes getting something.

Then do hay in slow feeder will keep him buzy longer and maybe keep him form kicking down his stall.

My boy was a air fern up until this year could gain weight looking at hay.
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1. As already mentioned you should be aware of what's being fed. In this case you don' t need the richer kinds of hay or feed. If they get plenty of grazing or hay and a proper balance of minerals, vitamins and amino acids they don't really need "feed".
2. Exercise. Just as with people plenty of exercise is one of the best answers with horses. Type, as well as kind, of exercise can burn a lot of calories which can have the double benefit of reducing weight while improving condition.

They're always going to be bigger and stronger so you better always be smarter. (One of my grandfather's many pearls of wisdom)
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I'm guessing the 'pellets' are Blue Seal Trotter? and Blue Seal Hay Stretcher. I would drop the hay stretcher all together - there's no need for it, he's not getting anything nutritionally from it, besides weight.
1QT of trotter, twice a day is a good amount, but maybe you want to look into some alternatives like a Ration Balancer?
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