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post #1 of 16 Old 12-03-2011, 03:05 AM Thread Starter
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Sound reasonable?

This is the first year I've had a boarder at our house. I'm used to my horse who just stays the same weight year round pretty much (pasture in summer/grass hay in winter).

The new horse is a 15 y/o TB. Known for dropping weight in the winter. Ridden once every couple weeks. I've also started blanketing him in hopes that it will keep him from expending as many calories on keeping warm. He is partially stalled as well.

Current feed:

1/2 bale of grass mix hay a day = 25-30 lbs depending on the bale (usually closer to 25).

6-7 lbs of sweet feed a day (split into 2 feedings). Slight estimate as I know a 50 lb bag lasts roughly a week.

1 cup of corn oil a day (1/2 cup per feeding) for added calories.

So far he has not dropped any weight and it has been getting very cold here. I can't judge well if he's actually gained since looking at a lanky tb next to my stocky paint will always make him look "thin" to me. Also a bit hard to judge since his butt and topline don't have much muscling.

Does this sound reasonable? It's what his owner said but she was also looking for my guidance at which point I could really only say we'll take it a day at a time and add or subtract as needed.
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post #2 of 16 Old 12-03-2011, 09:34 AM
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that's a whole lot of sweet feed, and I 'm not a fan of corn oil, Does the manure stay firm ? Id give it as much hay as it will eat, and supplement some soaked beet pulp at feeding time. I guess you can add and subtract feed as the weight goes up and down.
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While this boy is not a 20 something senior, he is still a bit older horse and if he is a hard keeper I would personally take him off the sweet feed (which can increase the likelyhood of ulcers and be a part of the reason for being a hard keeper) and oil and replace those with a senior complete feed to go with the hay. For example - Nutrena Life Design Senior has beet pulp, extra fat (replaces that oil your feeding) plus all the amino acids and such are balanced will help with building and keep muscle as well.

I'm also not sure about the hay. That will depend on how much this horse weights. With him being a TB and a hard keeper I would keep him closer to 2.5% of his body weight if you can't allow free choice. So if he is 1000 lbs - then your hay would be just right. If he weights more than that - I would adjust up accordingly. But I do agree with Joe4d here - if possible free choice would probably be best in this instance.

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I would definitely give him more hay and lessen up on the grain-I'm not a fan of using corn/vegetable oil either. Make sure you are using good hay, not to dry and stalky or anything.
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Sounds reasonable to me. I have no problem with corn oil and that's a pretty moderate amount of sweet feed. :) If he loses weight, I would add more hay before anything else though, assuming his teeth are okay and his worming is up to date. Especially with the cold, the hay is what will help keep him warm and from shivering all his calories away.

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In addition to what you are feeding him (which sounds fine to me), you could put him on a weight supplement. That really helped my horse gain weight FAST. Farnam Weight Builder. I think you should get it for him.
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Weight Builder did NOTHING for our OTTB....

He went from this:



To this in six months:



On free choice timothy hay, 3lbs Strategy and 2 scoops Cool calories and a probiotic supplement.

He now, a year and a half later, looks like this:




His diet is now a maintenace diet( 2 lbs of strategy instead of three, and one scoop of Cool Calories instead of 2) as his current body score, per our vet, is a 7....a bit plump for an OTTB. People often think he's an appendix.

Weight builder has half the fat of cool calories, which just didn't work for our high metabolism OTTB....

I also reccomend probiotics for all senior horses or hard keepers....they really do make a difference and are worth their weight in gold!!!!

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Weight Builder did NOTHING for our OTTB....

He went from this:



To this in six months:



On free choice timothy hay, 3lbs Strategy and 2 scoops Cool calories and a probiotic supplement.

He now, a year and a half later, looks like this:




His diet is now a maintenace diet( 2 lbs of strategy instead of three, and one scoop of Cool Calories instead of 2) as his current body score, per our vet, is a 7....a bit plump for an OTTB. People often think he's an appendix.

Weight builder has half the fat of cool calories, which just didn't work for our high metabolism OTTB....

I also reccomend probiotics for all senior horses or hard keepers....they really do make a difference and are worth their weight in gold!!!!
Please note that not all supplements work for every horse.... One horse might thrive on Farnam WB alone but others might need Cool Calories, AND beet pulp, AND free choice hay. It depends on the horse.
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I use rice bran oil, rather then corn oil. Its great for their GI tract, helps put on weight, and makes their coat look oh so shiny :)
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I use rice bran oil, rather then corn oil. Its great for their GI tract, helps put on weight, and makes their coat look oh so shiny :)
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Rice bran oil does not work for every horse!!!


Ok, ok, that was a joke. I was just teasing.

I have to make light of things like this that bother me else I'll explode!


Sorry cat but when people QUOTE me, then add disclaimers about stuff I never said, my lid flips! Maybe it shouldn't but.....it does bother me. Call it a pet peeve. We all have them
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