Originally Posted by Production Acres
We use Dairy One exculisively! They are a very professional company. They are very quick. Their results are not questioned. I think it is a genius of an idea that they had to form a pseudo-company called Equi-Analytical to market to horse people.
The idea that a test for RFV on a Dairy One sample would be different than the RFV test on a Equi-Analytical sample is a farce. Thusly, Protein is protein is protein! This is a common misconception that some horse people mention to me at least once a month.
Yes, I do not enjoy people perpetuating half-truths. If you notice, I do not comment on people's riding style, the anticipated new color of their colts, whether half chaps are allowed in english country pleasure shows, etc. I comment on hay, forage, basic feed, facilities, and trucks and trailers. I know more about forage than almost any vet in the country. We handle 10,000+ tons of forage, 12 different species of hay, 4 difffernt cuttings of hay, hay out of 15 different states.
I'll believe that but, if that is the case why, in Summer, 2007 when I posted hay test results that I had my local Co-op send out to THEIR lab for testing was the comment made on the other forum to the effect that "---the test results were based on feeding cows---". That quote is only to encircle the generalized statement because I sure can't remember exact verbiage back to 2007.
When I went back to the Co-op store, talked eyeball-to-eyeball to them and asked point blank if that hay was tested for "XYZ Values" for horses, their reply to me was (again not the exact verbiage) "--no; our lab tests hay for cows; what you are asking for is something they don't do, you will have to find someone else for that kind of testing--"
Those two things are why I made the comment I made to the OP of this thread.
That all being said, I have had the greatest of faith in the test results of Equi-Analytical until recently. When the sample test results came back from the Univ of MN where three of my horses were enrolled in their metabolic study program (two with metabolic issues, the third was the Control Horse), the hay samples tested at a bit over 13% NSC
I buy by the season and since I only have four horse, all my hay comes out of the same field and the same cutting. When I had sent the hay in for testing after it had sat in my barn for a month, the NSC value came back at around 9.6% NSC
Imagine my surprise, as I read the Univ of MN report that the forage samples had been tested by an outside source and that source was Equi-Analytical. I expected to see a disparity in test results but that is a huge disparity that needs challenged, given my hay-buying routine.
It also grieved me when I went all over this 22 acres to gather grass samples, paying strict attention to the rules, and my grass only tested at 8.5% NSC
. If that's the case why on earth do I have two metabolic horses when no one gets grain and they only eat mixed grass hay at night? After reading the big variance on my hay, it has made me doubt the accuracy of the pasture grass reading. I'd've bought into the results had they been reversed
Still I recommend them and I don't want to give up them. This reminds me that I need to fire off an e-mail to whomever's name I have from Dairy One back when I bought the core sampler. Thanks for that
I also stay out of the half chaps, horse colors, tie colors to match the shirt but, on occasion, can only sit on my hands for so long until I feel like I have to defend my Walking Horses, what bits I use (or not), and the fact that I have never had a riding "style". I have not only ridden more horses literally sitting on their butts to get down a slippery slope ending in a river than most folks, I have done it bareback my entire life. I really do know how to ride a horse and what it takes to keep them gentled and willing to slide that butt into a river, knee-dig up the other side, and stand proud at what they just accomplished. In 50-some years of riding, I have never once lamed or sored a horse either. Any lameness was done by their own foolishness in the pasture or in the stall.
I honestly always appreciate when I am corrected because I do NOT like to give misinformation to folks -- especially where the health of their horses are concerned. Having to study nutrition to this great detail is new to me since my first horse developed metabolic issues in 2007; I am still learning. I really would appreciate if your fingers typed in a little more gentle direction if I have inadvertently gotten someone off track where the health of their horse is concerned