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    09-19-2012, 11:28 PM
  #21
Yearling
Deworm her with ivermectin, and soaked beet pulp works great, start with a small amount and raise it up. If she goes into the last 2 months of pregnancy skinny, you will never get her weight on. She should have an all you can eat baffet of grass and hay. You can also add a bit of corn oil to the oats. Make sure she has salt too...
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    09-19-2012, 11:47 PM
  #22
Trained
I was going to say deworm her as well, because you comment on a huge belly at 4-5 months. I would probably do a fecal test first, especially since she's pregnant, and then see if the vet recommends Ivermectin or maybe a Power Pac to get her back to normal (if it's called for at all).

I've fed up skinny mares, pregnant and not, and I SWEAR by either Purina Senior or Purina Omolene 400 and all the hay they can hold. Alfalfa is great if you're in an area where it's safe to feed it, or even just unlimited grass hay. The trick that's worked best for me is to slowly increase their feed to where I WANT them to be rather than feeding for where they're AT.

So, using Omolene 400 as an example:

Let's say your mare weighs 800 lbs now and you want her to weigh 1200 lbs when she's up to weight. Omolene 400 is a complete feed so technically you don't need to feed hay with it, but when putting on weight, I feed the 400 PLUS all the grass hay they will eat.

So, too keep her at 800 lbs, you'd feed 8.75 lbs of 400 per day but to get her to 1200 lbs, you need to work up to feeding her 13.25 lbs per day. So if you feed twice a day, you'd add 1 lb per feeding, so go from 4.5 lbs to 5.5 lbs per feeding for about 5 days, then up to 6.5 lbs for 5 more days, then go to 6.5 lbs and 6.75 lbs as your final feed amounts.

Once I get them to the weight I want them at, I cut back on the 400 a little, so they hold their weight. I gave you the weights to feed for a mare in early gestation, the first 250 days. Once she gets to late gestation, the last 90 days, the feed rates go up so you'd have to look at the feed tag and figure out a new progression.

Once they get to the last 90 days, I start switching over to Omolene 300 which is designed for lactating mares and foals. I keep the foals on it til they're about 6 months and then I switch to Purina Equine Junior til they're 2 years old.
     
    09-20-2012, 12:34 AM
  #23
Yearling
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Mudpie, you have way too much time

The ration you suggested....sorry, but there's now way a horse can consume all of that.
Unless you mean everything "soaked" wet weight?
Still, I'd leave out the bran, period. A good mare&foal feed, given by weight recommendation, should have all necessary Vitamins and minerals in it. Himalaya saltlick definitely yes. Rice bran yes. Any omega supplement, yes.
For gaining weight NOW, I'd even suggest a good senior feed, like Nutrena Life Design Senior. Up to 9th months pregnancy, then switch to a Mare&foal, again Nutrena Life Design Mare&Foal.
God, yes I do. XD I think about going to the barn and get nervous, so I do something to keep me busy. Then I come back from the barn and am all freaked out, so I do more pointless stuff to keep busy. XD I do have to study all this anyways, though, so it's okay. But life? I have none.

And I did mean the soaked weight. ;) I know how much it weighs wet, but I wasn't 100% sure about when it's dry.

I love bran because it packs on weight and the wonderful watery slop gives Mudpie a little moustache. ;) All joking aside, I've loved the results, and Mudpie loves the taste. (:

With Mudpie, the key is a huge amount of bulk. He just needs many pounds of high-quality food, or he just loses all his weight. XD When he was gaining the weight back, too, bran and senior feed was key.
     
    09-20-2012, 01:17 AM
  #24
Trained
Thing with bran is the calcium:phosphorus ratio. When you feed grain, which is already high in Ph, you add with the bran probably to a bad level (big head disease).
I used to feed my skinny TB alfalfa pellets soaked, with his grain, corn and barley (no oats for him), some oil, yeast, flax and soybean meal (little) and a little bran to, again, balance the Ca:Ph ratio, since alfalfa is pretty high in Ca, about 3 parts alfalfa and one part bran. But that was looooooong before all the pelleted feeds, senior, low Carb, ration balancer etc. And, I must say, I'd do it again if I could find all the raw ingredient
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    09-20-2012, 12:00 PM
  #25
Yearling
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Thing with bran is the calcium:phosphorus ratio. When you feed grain, which is already high in Ph, you add with the bran probably to a bad level (big head disease).
I used to feed my skinny TB alfalfa pellets soaked, with his grain, corn and barley (no oats for him), some oil, yeast, flax and soybean meal (little) and a little bran to, again, balance the Ca:Ph ratio, since alfalfa is pretty high in Ca, about 3 parts alfalfa and one part bran. But that was looooooong before all the pelleted feeds, senior, low Carb, ration balancer etc. And, I must say, I'd do it again if I could find all the raw ingredient
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I tend to not have a problem with Mudpie's energy levels. In fact, I usually feed him RedCell to give him that extra "kick." I've never fed a horse as meticulously as I do Mudpie (or as much), so I guess I haven't had a problem with energy before. OP, you should listen to deserthorsewoman. Mudpie definitely doesn't have a lot of spaz inside, but we don't know about your mare.

If I had an underweight pregnant mare that was similar to Mudpie, that is what she would eat under my care.

I do believe the surplus feeding of pregnant mares, though, because my mother bred her mare last summer and didn't feed her sufficiently, and she ended up absorbing the baby. They should have MORE than they can eat, and it should take them a long time to finish what they're given. :)

Oh great guru! XD -grovels-
     
    09-20-2012, 12:31 PM
  #26
Foal
She has been dewormed when I first got her she had a really bad parasite problem so I put her on Panacure 5 day power pac and ever since then I have had her on a daily wormer just like the rest of my horses. Its Strongid daily wormer and she gets about 3/4 of the cup of it. If anyone uses it they know that it comes with a measuring cup, and a weight suggestion line so she gets the 800lb line.
Also, Mudpie thank you for the suggestions I will definetly look into putting her on the suplements you suggested. As for the salt blocks and minerals she already has them in her stall and out in her field.
Thank you everyone else who replied! I really appreciate it! I worry about everything, and look for other suggestions from people. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :)
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    09-20-2012, 06:35 PM
  #27
Trained
We could use some pics....ya know ....the before and after kind
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    09-21-2012, 09:41 PM
  #28
Foal
I have no experience with caring for pregnant mares but, I have fed my mare beet pulp in the winter when she gets a little thin. Research it beforehand if you decide to feed it; I know that it is a very safe feed. It is low starch and highly digest able. Beet pulp shouldn't replace your alfalfa/timothy hay and it should be added to your horses diet slowly over time.
I agree with desert horsewoman that you might want to try out alfalfa, but be careful! I have seen a horse colic when she was fed alfalfa and wasn't used to it. So make the change slowly. Don't know if this is the best choice for your mare but it worked for mine!
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    09-25-2012, 10:53 AM
  #29
Weanling
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Originally Posted by crazyhorsegirl19    
She has been dewormed when I first got her she had a really bad parasite problem so I put her on Panacure 5 day power pac and ever since then I have had her on a daily wormer just like the rest of my horses. Its Strongid daily wormer and she gets about 3/4 of the cup of it. If anyone uses it they know that it comes with a measuring cup, and a weight suggestion line so she gets the 800lb line.
Also, Mudpie thank you for the suggestions I will definetly look into putting her on the suplements you suggested. As for the salt blocks and minerals she already has them in her stall and out in her field.
Thank you everyone else who replied! I really appreciate it! I worry about everything, and look for other suggestions from people. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :)
You need to go to TheHorse.com and read up on the "New" worming protocols because daily worming is not recommended any more it creates resistance...........I would do a fecal count and see what you have you could still have a worming issue.

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    09-25-2012, 11:04 AM
  #30
Trained
Fighting the Dewormer Resistance - HorseChannel.com
     

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