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        01-29-2012, 03:58 PM
      #21
    Trained
    The molecule is too large to be absorbed in high amounts. Regardless of what you feed it with you will never fit a large amount of 3" diameter spheres into a series of on average 2" diameter holes.
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        01-30-2012, 10:46 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    The molecule is too large to be absorbed in high amounts. Regardless of what you feed it with you will never fit a large amount of 3" diameter spheres into a series of on average 2" diameter holes.
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    I was of that understanding too until I saw the results on multiple horses. Times are changing! Isn't science wonderful
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        01-30-2012, 10:48 AM
      #23
    Trained
    Yes, science is wonderful. The results of Adequan are great! Especially when compared to oral supplements.

    How do you know the results you see are due to the glucosamine and not just the MSM?
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        01-30-2012, 11:25 AM
      #24
    Weanling
    Without testing neither of us could say on what level, I am solely basing this on the improvement I've seen with these horses since they began Aniflex. The 3 times I have given one mare only MSM, within 2 weeks time, each of the 3 times tried, she became more lame than she initially was. Stop the MSM and she would return back to her norm. 3 different trials with her to make absolutely sure it wasn't something else under vet supervision. That's how I know it's not just the MSM. Now there is MSM in Aniflex, but combined with everything else is working for her and the rest fantastically
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        01-30-2012, 11:35 AM
      #25
    Trained
    So you haven't actually tried Adequan, or an injectable glucosamine?? So how can you say which results are better when comparing oral to injectable.


    Also, when looking at the ingredients I am highly doubtful that the results you are experiencing with Aniflex have anything to do with the glucosamine, or HA in the product. First and foremost I notice the added Selenium and in Selenium deficient soils, addition of this mineral alone can improve health greatly. Next is the MSM and Creatine which are both effective at improving the strength of connective tissues, of which there are a lot near joints. The final thing I notice in the product is Yucca, which will show up in a drug test. It is not allowed for competition horses because of it's anti inflammatory effects and it is because of the inclusion of this ingredient that I believe the majority of the effects (which I'm guessing were rather immediate) are due to.
    Even with Adequan injections, it takes a full month of 5ccs every 4 days before results are seen. Oral supplements, with the lower dose and how little is actually absorbed should take even longer than that to show results. Any immediate effects are usually due to anti-inflammatory properties of the supplement.
         
        01-30-2012, 12:00 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    Hun, I just really don't know what else it is you want me to say. As I mentioned in the beginning of this thread, not taking anything away from Adequan. It's a very good product and yes I've used it. Yes it's always been my understanding the molecules in oral can't get where they need to be. Yes I've been told of an oral product that works so tried it for myself and guess what - it really does work regardless of what all is in it. I understand your need to defend your position but that still isn't changing the fact that this Aniflex works
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        01-30-2012, 12:31 PM
      #27
    Trained
    But it does not work because of the glucosamine in it, it works because of the anti inflammatory in it. The same reason you can't feed it to horses you want to show.
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