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    03-27-2012, 08:45 AM
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Green Broke
Question Supplements? Vitamins?

So, I have an 18 year old mare who I have noticed lately is going to town on her salt block. That makes me believe something is missing from her diet.

She currently gets grass hay, she's in a paddock so no green grass for her. She also gets about 1lb of Purina Equine Senior along with 2 oz of Cool Calories. She still needs weight all around other than her hay belly. I have been starting her into work and training. The Equine Senior is a complete feed and I am only giving her a portion of what she should get as when I was giving her 6lbs a day she got so hot she was actually a danger to herself.

So my question is, I know she is lacking some nutrients, what should be fed to fill that? I am open to all suggestions, I am not bound to any certain brand or type of feed. Also perhaps she should be started on something for her joints as she is older and for the first time being made to work?

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    03-27-2012, 10:45 AM
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Pick up a bag of Enrich 32. Add #1 to what you're feeding. Keep the senior as a few extra calories.

The haybelly is more from the quality of the hay and her inability to break down the long stem fibers in it. Putting her on a daily pre/probiotic is always a good idea on an older horse.
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    03-27-2012, 10:57 AM
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I'd suggest a selenium block as well. Does her feed have any amount of selenium at all? The US is VERY deprived of this mineral and horses need 1 mg per day. Without it, they are more likely to have muscle issues (tying up) because selenium helps to relax the muscles after work.
     
    03-27-2012, 11:11 AM
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Green Broke
This is what is listed as the analysis in her current feed. But she is getting only about 1lb a day and it says to feed about 10lbs a day for her weight.

CRUDE PROTEINMIN14.00%LYSINEMIN0.70%FATMIN5.50%FIBERMAX1 8.00%CALCIUM (CA)MIN0.60%CALCIUM (CA)MAX0.80%PHOSPHORUS MIN0.40%SODIUM (NA)MIN0.10%SODIUM (NA)MAX0.60%COPPER (CU) MIN55PPMSELENIUM (SE)MIN0.30PPMZINC (ZN)MIN220PPMVITAMIN AMIN3,500IU/LBVITAMIN EMIN140IU/LB

She is boarded so anything I put out in the paddock will be devoured by the other horses. She is supposed to be on good quality hay as one mare has allergies and other problems and they are fed together.

What is Enrich 32? She does get sore I have noticed after working, but she also is still developing muscle. Ideally I would like something I could give her once a day as I can only get out to her after work.

Thank you for the replies.
     
    03-27-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
Does her feed have any amount of selenium at all? The US is VERY deprived of this mineral
Not true. While some regions of the US are deficient, others have good to toxic levels in the soil. My pastures have extreely high levels and my challenge is to find mineral blends and feeds that do not have added Se. I think it's criminal to sell Se blocks in my area.

The Enrich 32 is a Purina ration balancer. What that means is it's a highly concentrated feed that will complement and fill the gaps in a grass hay diet.
     
    03-27-2012, 11:50 AM
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Green Broke
The Enrich 32 is a Purina ration balancer. What that means is it's a highly concentrated feed that will complement and fill the gaps in a grass hay diet.[/QUOTE]



Thank you, I will look to see if our feed store has that. And that would provide needed vitamins and minerals? I probably have to buy the pre/probiotics seperately but that's no problem.

Do I need to continue the senior feed with this? The only reason I am still feeding the senior is to have something to mix the cool calories into. I am slowly uping the amount of work she does as she slowly builds muscle. We currently do about 10-15 min of lunging work about 4-5 days a week. Hoping to get in the saddle this week or next.
     
    03-27-2012, 08:52 PM
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Since your feed store carries Purina, they most likely will have the Enrich. If they don't just ask. They can get it in with their next shipment. The Senior isn't going to add much since it's only 1# and most of that is BP and alfalfa. Finish out the bag and see. With the increase in work, she might need additional calories and that can be an easy way to get them.

The 32 will compliment the grass hay and will have everything she needs except white salt.
     
    03-27-2012, 08:55 PM
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Green Broke
Here's a good informational site about ration balancers: Ration Balancer
     
    03-27-2012, 09:02 PM
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Green Broke
Thank you for your help. I will be going tomorrow to see what they have on hand. They will order anything I need so that is nice. I'm thinking of keeping the senior on hand just so I will always have something to mix supplements into if need be. I also feed the cool calories which is 99% fat so that adds some calories.

As far as the pre/probiotics is there a brand that is better? I know with humans the amount of live cultures varies greatly depending on brand. She will eat anything you put in front of her luckily so I don't think taste matters to her lol (the only upside of having a rescue). Thanks again for your help.
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    03-27-2012, 09:10 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by verona1016    
Here's a good informational site about ration balancers: Ration Balancer
That was helpful information. Thank you
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