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        08-08-2013, 12:12 AM
      #11
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    Wow! So much to think about! I love it!

    I think I jinxed us by talking about how she hadn't had an ERU episode in about a year - this morning her "bad" eye was going nuts. HMPH. Haha It's settling back down but now we're back into the "danger zone". Darn it anyway.

    Interesting, walkin! I have read about those and considered dosing for them, just to be safe...but I've been really nervous about it. I rarely worm her anyway [I think she hasn't been wormed in...over a year ] and when I do, her eyes do show some swelling. Double dosing makes me super nervous. But at the same time, if it would help....
    I'll seriously consider it in a month or two, once her eyes are "back" after this current episode [it takes about a month for them to return to near-normal but they stay overly sensitive for a good 4 months unfortunately].

    I do know that she has "changes" inside her eyes...like I guess something about both of them isn't "normal" structurally but they're apparently identically abnormal...? haha Then she has a large cataract in one and a few small ones in the other. Basically, it seems like someone just doesn't want this horse to see! That's pretty much exactly what my vet told me when I mentioned another vet saying Lacey had "ocular changes". My vet isn't super well versed with ERU but that seems to be pretty typical around here. The internet and HoFo is my friend! :)
    All that to say, she didn't make any mention of any kind of worm to me the last time we thoroughly checked Lacey's eyes out.


    I DO know that gnats both her. She often will get a "strip" of those biting belly-bugs that sort of burrow in, if I don't stay on top of applying SWAT to her belly/chest/udder. The flies really pretty much leave her alone - indoors and out [probably helps that she's the only horse around so we don't have much of a fly issue - at least, not like most places with horses! Haha]. The mosquitoes at night REALLY bother her though. She's pretty laid back about bugs but mosquitoes send her into a tizzy.
    I think the staying indoors thing might be related to the fact that "her" goats don't go out in the sun - the goats lay in their stall and she stands in hers - which is adjacent to the goat-stall, then, at around 6pm, they all start making their way out for the evening.

    I haven't tried specifically targeting the dock/crest with flyspray, I'll give that a go. I usually do a full body spray so pretty much everywhere is "damp" with spray [except her face, she gets ACV wiped on her face - chemical and eyes again! Haha], then SWAT in a line from her mid-chest to udder and in her ears. That seems to do the trick pretty well, most of the time. I usually do it in the evening to ward off the mosquitoes, since they do bother her so much, but I'll do a little test with morning application sometime next week after her eyes have calmed down.
    I would try it now but she's on so much bute that she's feeling no pain of any kind and she spent all day outside grazing in the sun anyway = super out of character for her. On bute, she gets super "not normal" - it seems to mess with her judgement or something related to judgement since she's usually very sensible, but on bute she'll start doing daredevil stunts.

    Or maybe she doesn't go out in the sun because it hurts her eyes a bit? She does wear a 90%UV blocking flymask during the day, but that 10% could bother her.

    Fess up, Lacey!! Haha

    Hopefully that answered everyone's thoughts/questions! I have a lot to think about, thanks. :)
         
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        08-08-2013, 07:27 AM
      #12
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    It took me two years to work up the nerve to double dose my horses that I knew were affected.

    I've done it twice and I still get nervous because two are in their mid-late 20's, one has gastric stomach ulcers; the other one has metabolic issues and developed hind gut ulcers. All of that compromised his immune system because he never used to have bug bite issues.

    It sounds as if you have a pretty good rapport with your vet. Since your mare hasn't been wormed in a year (and if you think that, it's probably been longer - lol), I would not double-dose her without talking to your vet first.

    I agree waiting until the weather cools down would be best

    While SWAT is the best to keep the biting Midge Flies off the belly line, diaper rash cream is a lot cheaper and works every bit as well

    I have four horses so I am always looking for ways to save money while achieving good results.

    I use WalMart's brand diaper rash cream but, I have recently noticed they have reduced the percent of zinc oxide from 40% to 10%

    I never bothered to look at the box when I was in the store but, along with producing smaller tubes, they evidently decided to lower the amount of zinc oxide while "keeping the price the same"

    I don't know if Desitin diaper rash cream would be cheaper than Swat in the long run.
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        08-08-2013, 11:41 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Anything oily or greasy works. Gnats cannot bite through oil. That's why the Avon works, partially. Whatever scents they put in keeps them away also.
    Vaseline would work too. Diaper stuff is white....probably more accepted by a lady...... goes with the color of her hair.....
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        08-16-2013, 03:09 PM
      #14
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    I thought I'd let you guys know that she's been on Remission for nearly a week [tomorrow will be 7 days] and I thiiiiiiink I'm already seeing her fat pads shrink. At least, her back seems a bit more swayed [she doesn't have a massive sway, it's just that at 28, with a weak loin connection+long back...a little sway is inevitable! Haha] and a little rounder, less flat thanks to fat pads. Her neck also seems a little less cresty, but that's harder to determine.
    Super exciting!!

    I've been giving her a little less than the full tbsp scoop that came with it - no runny poos either!

    And she looooooooves it. Can't get enough of that tasty Remission flavor, apparently! What a pig. A cute cute pig.

    Thanks again for all your help!!
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