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    04-06-2013, 12:33 PM
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Green Broke
Vegetable oil same as Corn oil?

My vet recommended feeding corn oil to put some weight on my mare. I noticed at the store that of course there are several different kinds of oil - olive, canola, corn, vegetable etc. I've done a ton of research on all the types and basically there doesn't seem to be any consensus one way or the other...some swear by corn and say canola is bad...others swear by canola because corn has too many omega 6's and so on and so forth.

So I used my barn manager/trainer, my mare's nutritionist, and my vet to be the deciding factor and they all said Corn. So assuming I am going with corn and not another kind of oil here, just want to know - is vegetable oil the same as corn oil, or is veg oil a combo or several different kinds of veggies?

Just wondering since veg oil is much cheaper it seems!
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    04-06-2013, 01:22 PM
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Weanling
My horse does not like Corn oil- I guess it is too thick. She prefers Canola but isn't a real fan of that either and likes to leave some of it in the bottom of her bucket.

My other horse will eat both. I want to try soybean oil, but not sure how they would like that either.
     
    04-06-2013, 01:25 PM
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Green Broke
Mine loves anything you give her lol, but do you know if veg oil is same as corn oil??
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    04-06-2013, 02:13 PM
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Trained
No, corn oil is corn oil, and, as they found out, inflammatory, and vegetable oil is a blend of, for example, canola and sunflower oils. I fed soybean oil, corn oil, canola oil before. Another option for weight gain without giving more grain is ricebran or ground flax. Both high in fat, and possibly more economic. I get 50 lbs of flaxseed for 30$, grind it myself and it lasts me 3 months for three horses. You can feed up to a pound a day.
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    04-06-2013, 03:32 PM
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Green Broke
I cannot find 50lb bags of flax seed. That would be nice. This state CALI is like two different worlds from the north to the south ..lol. As far as what is available and what is not. I sure cannot afford a 4 hr drive to go up north and get some feed ..lol
     
    04-06-2013, 03:39 PM
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Green Broke
Veg is a mix I believe and corn is corn. I fed it to get weight on my TB and could not believe all the Debbie do's and don'ts out there, lol. Too much info can really mess with your brain.
     
    04-06-2013, 04:33 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by stevenson    
I cannot find 50lb bags of flax seed. That would be nice. This state CALI is like two different worlds from the north to the south ..lol. As far as what is available and what is not. I sure cannot afford a 4 hr drive to go up north and get some feed ..lol
Just responded in the other thread lol...do you have California Dairy or another bigger mill who also makes bird seeds? They most likely have flax. You'll have to nag a bit, maybe, so they pull out their list and check. Don't even bother at TSC, tho
     
    04-06-2013, 04:57 PM
  #8
Showing
I feed ground flax seed that I grind myself. I get it from Seed Products | honeyvillegrain.com
It's 67.99 for 50# bag. ($1.35 per pound) They charge 4.49 for shipping no matter what you order. This is the cheapest I could find online. I can't get it at a local mill.
I bought a cheap blender/grinder and grind my own. I buy it in 5# bags 4 at a time. I give 1/4 cup unground which is about 1/3 cup ground to each horse daily.
I keep it indoors and don't have the space for a 50# bag.
I don't feed it for weight gain so you may want to bump that amount up. I use it for healthy joint, hair and general good horse health.
     
    04-07-2013, 01:53 AM
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Green Broke
Id find another vet, one that actually has a clue about horse nutrition.
     
    04-07-2013, 08:42 AM
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Green Broke
I was going to stay out of this but

While Tractor Supply has their own brand of "Omega-3 Horseshine that is a lot cheaper, I buy Omega-3 Horseshine made by Omega Fields.

TSC does sell it but their stocking philosophy (from corporate) is they only re-stock what they sell. Meaning if one bag of something is all that gets sold in a month, that's all that will be on the delivery truck the next month unless the customer requests to have more put on the truck. <---believe me that doesn't work half the time

Anyway, I pay $39.00/20 lb bag of Omega-3 Horseshine and have just started buying it from the hometown feed store, whom I would much rather give my $$$ to anyway

I feed it to three horses daily and a 20 lb bag lasts me five weeks. Both the vet and the Trimmers comment on the great condition my horses hooves are in.

Five weeks equals .875 cent per day for three horses. That is .29 cents per day per horse.

I don't have to go on the hunt for a 50# bag of flax that might be bad because it's sat in the back of the feed store for months on end, and I don't have to waste time grinding seeds.

If I may use "Vidaloco's" numbers, please

$72.48 for a 50# bag. Vida uses 1/3 cup ground daily, I use 1/2 cup daily.

Using my numbers that 1/2 cup per horse equals 1-1/2 cups daily and costs me .875 cents per day, that means a 50 lb bag of Vida's flax seed should last me around 12.5 weeks?

That comes out to .173 cent daily for me to feed three horses. That means Vida saves ~.12 cents daily or $3.60/monthly to feed flax that has to be ordered in, then the time taken to grind it up in a grinder.

I have four horses and two have metabolic issues plus arthritis, and one of them foundered last year so he still requires some special care, on my part, in-between trimmer visits.

My math, even with a calculator is bad so I may have screwed this up royally, but my time is worth a lot more than $3.60/mo.

Not to mention, I would have to have the flax shipped to Mr. WTW's place of work. Our house sits more than 500' off the road, therefore the gate down by the road is always locked. UPS doesn't tell anyone when they're going to deliver - for me saving $3.60/mo is just not worth the hassle

I am issuing a mathmatical disclaimer - I may need corrected on my calculations because I really am math stupid --- that made my Master Machinist father very happy - right
     

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