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    10-10-2012, 01:10 PM
  #1
Yearling
Question Vitamin A supplements?

Ok, so my paint mare (since she is almost all white) keeps getting skin issues. She had rain rot/rain scalds when I first got her, I got rid of it. Now it keeps coming back, and she ended up with a weird bald spot on her shoulder, but only her one shoulder. I put Vetericyn on all of it and I cleared right up, and the listerene was helping, but it was drying out her skin a bit much. I was told she might need a vitamin A supplement. So does any one know of any good ones out there? I've looked and I can't seem to find them. Your help will be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!! (and i'm stocking up on medicated shampoo too) Have a good day all!!!
     
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    10-10-2012, 01:59 PM
  #2
Green Broke
What does her diet look like? The best thing would be to make sure she's getting a balanced diet, since if she's deficient in vit A, there's a good chance she's deficient in something else, too.

There are many supplements that are high in Vit A (Mare Plus, Grow Colt, Select, etc), but I can't think of any that are just Vit A.
     
    10-10-2012, 10:31 PM
  #3
Yearling
Ok thanks! She's on pasture all year, with hay added in the fall/winter, and oats once a day. She has salt and mineral blocks available at all times.
     
    10-11-2012, 01:11 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I'd add in a ration balancer. I've had very good results with Triple Crown 30% Supplement, but most brands make at least one formula. ADM StayStrong has the highest vitamin A content that I've seen in any of the ration balancers.

Here's a good resource for learning more about ration balancers: Ration Balancer
     
    10-11-2012, 08:40 PM
  #5
Yearling
Ok Thank you Verona. I really appreciate your help!!
     
    10-11-2012, 09:34 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
Here is what I wrote last winter about Vitamin A and skin and other problems.

Rain Rot or Rain Scald and lice are almost always nutrition related. Feeding adequate levels of Vitamin A will prevent almost all cases of rain rot and lice as well as many other conditions that occur mostly in horses with no access to green grass or in the winter and early spring when Vitamin A stores are depleted or intake is inadequate when horses are stabled. Other conditions related to a Vitamin A deficiency are:


1) Rough hair coat. Predisposition for getting skin conditions like rain rot and lice. These horses can look wormy even when they are not.


2) Goopy, runny, crusty eyes.


3) Mares failing to ovulate or conceive.


4)
Mares failing to drop their afterbirth within 30 minutes of foaling.

I have recommended that several people initiate a program of supplementing vitamin A, especially during the late fall, winter and early spring months and all have reported having rain rot and lice disappear without any further medicating or treating.


There are several ways to supplement Vitamin A. If a horse is seriously deficient, I recommend using the injectable form of Vitamin A only just give it orally and not in shot form. Start with about 5 cc and just squirt it into the horse's mouth. Then follow it up with 2 - 5 cc a week. You can get it at any feed or farm store that caters to stockmen. It is a non-prescription item or you can get it shipped from any one of several catalogs like Jeffers or Valley Vet.


This should be followed up with a good supplement that has high levels of Vitamin A. Farnam has a product called "Mare Plus". It will prevent rain rot and other conditions related to Vitamin A.


Vitamin A deficiency frequently is accompanied by a mineral deficiency -- mainly a Calcium deficiency. I feed a loose mineral supplement that contains high levels of Vitamin A plus Calcium, Magnesium and zinc. Since feeding it, I have not had ONE SINGLE CASE of Rain Rot or of lice. All but 4 or 5 of our 60 horses run out with no shelters other than trees, etc on large pastures. Most are not fed grain but only get free-choice winter pasture and/or free-choice round bales of mature grass hay. They get very little Beta Carotene (the precursor of Vitamin A) or Vitamin A from their diet.


When I get in a new horse with rain rot, I do not do anything other than put it on good feed and supplement Vitamin A. I will use oral Vitamin A for 3 or 4 weeks until just keeping out our mineral can take over.
     
    10-12-2012, 12:33 PM
  #7
Yearling
Thank you Cherie. This is very useful to know. And yes she does have the goopy eyes, mostly her right which is also half blue, and has mostly pink skin around it. Our pastures must be really lacking this year, since i've been battling this since spring. At the longest it cleared up for about 2 months. She was doing really well and didn't show any skin ailments at all for the longest time. Now since fall is here (wet season too) it's gotten bad. She seems to be the only one out of our herd who is having this problem. My 2 geldings are perfectly fine, no problems at all. And my in-laws horses are doing great. She must have been deficient when I got her, and didn't realize. Thank you again!!
     
    10-16-2012, 05:09 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
A natural source of vitamin A (and also D, E and K), and a good promoter of liver functions, is milk thistle oil.
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    10-18-2012, 02:30 PM
  #9
Yearling
Thanks Saranda! Where would I find it??
     
    10-18-2012, 02:37 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
As I'm from a totally different country, I'm not really sure where you can get some in the U.S., but a quick search gave me this -

Milk Thistle Oil 100ml
Organic milk Thistle Oil 100ml
Milk Thistle oil. - Essential & Cosmetic oils - Health & Beauty - Russianfooddirect
100% Milk Thistle Oil (Silybum marianum) 350 ml

It sure is a lot more expensive to buy online, than it is here... Maybe you can try homeopathic pharmacies?
     

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