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    05-26-2012, 02:02 PM
Want to change feeds

Hi I have a 15 year old Arabian gelding. He needs more muscling on his top line. He needs more energy. He's so lazy! I just want him to be more forward and a little more excitable. It sounds crazy, I know, but I like an energetic alive horse. I don't want him to get So much energy that he goes crazy, though haha. He's a bit of a hard keeper too. I am feeding 2scoops of purina strategy 2x a day, coastal hay (very green. Very big flakes) 2x a day, and a flake of alfalfa a day. I have had him on this diet for a month and I have seen a little boost of energy but not as much as I'd like. What feed (cheaper but still good preferably.) would give him what he needs? Could I go to a basic pellet and add supplements? Add more alfalfa? Also what diet would help him build muscle better in addition to working? The strategy is $16 a bag here. He goes through about a bag a week. A cheaper feed would be great and I don't mind adding supplements. Should I up his alfalfa? Oh and I take him out to graze for 1-2 hours every day. There's no pasture he can graze in freely. He is in a large paddock but it's so dry here and there's so many weeds that there is no grass in his paddock. Help is appreciated.
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    05-27-2012, 12:42 AM
Green Broke
Have you weighed your scoops and hay flakes? The first step to knowing if you're feeding your horse appropriately is to know exactly how much you're giving them
    05-27-2012, 08:56 PM
Well he goes through a bag about every 8 days so he's getting almost 7 pounds a day of strategy and idk how to measure a flake of hay or alfalfa. Plus the grazing I take him out for.
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    05-27-2012, 09:03 PM
You weigh it (the hay)

How long has he been without energy? Is it more like he's lethargic or..?
    05-27-2012, 09:04 PM
Green Broke
A flake of hay from a 100 or so lb bale is about four inches.
Your horse may just be a laid back kind of horse and no matter what will not be a high energy horse. If you are feeding a high fat feed with 12-14 % protein that should be suffecient. Do not go to a higher protein feed, as the alfalfa hay usually has a 10 - 17 % protein. So you need to figure proteins of hay plus supplement, plus grass/grazing.. If you get to high of level you can damage your horses kidney and liver causing death.
    05-27-2012, 09:06 PM
Okay so there's nothing I can do?
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    05-27-2012, 09:08 PM
I don't have a scale. I don't think a plain bathroom scale will do it. He's not lethargic. Just not very forward. I don't want him to be impossible to hold back I just want him to really be ready to go.
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    05-27-2012, 09:10 PM
Sounds more like a training issue than a diet issue, if there is infact an issue.

He sounds like a very nice trail horse prospect, or for beginners.
    05-27-2012, 09:18 PM
Oh he's awesome on the trail. Sometimes he does get hot like I want him to be out on the trail (I would be afraid for a beginner because of this fact. Not spooky just wants to trot/jump ditches/shoot up hills) and I LOVE that. But a lot of the time he is lazy and seems like he has no energy. It could be a training issue. Could it be boredom since he's like that mainly in the arena and in fields? Should I try to make it more interesting for him? Also, what'll help build muscle faster on his top line? I know there's no miracle for it but there has to be some exercise or something that works best. :)
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    05-28-2012, 01:27 AM
Muscle can't develop fast. It has a set rate.. and needs lots of down time to make such muscles are overly strained.

Hill work is great, backing up, trotting, ground poles.

Yeah interesting would help. Is there a way you could trailer him to trails or have someone ride with you or something?

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