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post #1 of 27 Old 05-26-2012, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Want to change feeds

Hi I have a 15 year old Arabian gelding. He needs more muscling on his top line. He needs more energy. He's so lazy! I just want him to be more forward and a little more excitable. It sounds crazy, I know, but I like an energetic alive horse. I don't want him to get So much energy that he goes crazy, though haha. He's a bit of a hard keeper too. I am feeding 2scoops of purina strategy 2x a day, coastal hay (very green. Very big flakes) 2x a day, and a flake of alfalfa a day. I have had him on this diet for a month and I have seen a little boost of energy but not as much as I'd like. What feed (cheaper but still good preferably.) would give him what he needs? Could I go to a basic pellet and add supplements? Add more alfalfa? Also what diet would help him build muscle better in addition to working? The strategy is $16 a bag here. He goes through about a bag a week. A cheaper feed would be great and I don't mind adding supplements. Should I up his alfalfa? Oh and I take him out to graze for 1-2 hours every day. There's no pasture he can graze in freely. He is in a large paddock but it's so dry here and there's so many weeds that there is no grass in his paddock. Help is appreciated.
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post #2 of 27 Old 05-27-2012, 12:42 AM
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Have you weighed your scoops and hay flakes? The first step to knowing if you're feeding your horse appropriately is to know exactly how much you're giving them
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post #3 of 27 Old 05-27-2012, 08:56 PM Thread Starter
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Well he goes through a bag about every 8 days so he's getting almost 7 pounds a day of strategy and idk how to measure a flake of hay or alfalfa. Plus the grazing I take him out for.
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You weigh it (the hay)

How long has he been without energy? Is it more like he's lethargic or..?

"Strength is the ability to use a muscle without tension"
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A flake of hay from a 100 or so lb bale is about four inches.
Your horse may just be a laid back kind of horse and no matter what will not be a high energy horse. If you are feeding a high fat feed with 12-14 % protein that should be suffecient. Do not go to a higher protein feed, as the alfalfa hay usually has a 10 - 17 % protein. So you need to figure proteins of hay plus supplement, plus grass/grazing.. If you get to high of level you can damage your horses kidney and liver causing death.
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Okay so there's nothing I can do?
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I don't have a scale. I don't think a plain bathroom scale will do it. He's not lethargic. Just not very forward. I don't want him to be impossible to hold back I just want him to really be ready to go.
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Sounds more like a training issue than a diet issue, if there is infact an issue.

He sounds like a very nice trail horse prospect, or for beginners.

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Oh he's awesome on the trail. Sometimes he does get hot like I want him to be out on the trail (I would be afraid for a beginner because of this fact. Not spooky just wants to trot/jump ditches/shoot up hills) and I LOVE that. But a lot of the time he is lazy and seems like he has no energy. It could be a training issue. Could it be boredom since he's like that mainly in the arena and in fields? Should I try to make it more interesting for him? Also, what'll help build muscle faster on his top line? I know there's no miracle for it but there has to be some exercise or something that works best. :)
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Muscle can't develop fast. It has a set rate.. and needs lots of down time to make such muscles are overly strained.

Hill work is great, backing up, trotting, ground poles.

Yeah interesting would help. Is there a way you could trailer him to trails or have someone ride with you or something?

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