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post #1 of 42 Old 02-06-2012, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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Wanting to experiment with grain....

So, I just want to experiment with grain! I like seeing what happens with different products so here are the deets: Joker is a 6 year old pretty easy keeper who is being ridden once a week. Sometimes every other week with it being winter. What brand of grain should I experiment with? Below are my choices, and unfortunately it's not many because those are the only ones that are available that I'm interested in (besides Purina Strategy HE, but I need to see if the other feed store has that)

So, should I try this:
DuMOR® EquiStages Horse Feed, 50 lb. - 5109922 | Tractor Supply Company

This:
Nutrena® SafeChoice® Horse Feed, 50 lb. - 2802262 | Tractor Supply Company

This:
Nutrena® Life Design® Prime Horse Feed, 50 lb. - 2802296 | Tractor Supply Company

Or perhaps just add this to the Purina Strategy he already gets?:
Producer's Pride® Alfalfa Pellets, 50 lb. - 5050165 | Tractor Supply Company
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post #2 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 03:24 AM
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Firstly wondering why you feel the need to feed a good doer that's not in work any grain at all & why you want to experiment??

Starchy, grainy feeds aren't generally the best for horses. It's important that if feeding, they're fed little & often & any dietary changes are made very gradually over a couple of weeks.

Of those feeds you listed, the links provided no info unfortunately. Don't know anything about the Dumor. Nutrena & Purina don't provide ingredients or much info on their site, but I think ingredients of SC & Strategy both include corn & wheat in both cases, which I'd not feed. Nutrena Safe Choice is much lower NSC than other Nutrena feeds & lower than Strategy, but apparently still 26% which is high. Alfalfa is a generally pretty good feed for horses, *as part of a balanced diet* but is high energy, so should be judiciously fed to 'good doers'. I'd opt for hay/cubes over pellets, as for one, there's long fibre, & more chew time which is very important for horses & for 2, you don't know what else is in the pellets - dust eg, as it's often made from floor sweepings.
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post #3 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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I feed him grain to give him all the nutrients he may be lacking in his hay. He's only getting 2lbs of grain a day right now. I don't give him grain for energy, he has enough without the energy some grains can provide! Why do I want to experiment? Read below.

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So, I just want to experiment with grain! I like seeing what happens with different products
That, and I just want to see if he fairs better with certain ones. He is a little on the thin side right now, but I'm switching him to free choice hay in a few weeks, so I'm sure THAT will take care of the problem (; I just want to make sure he's getting all the nutrients he needs. (He does have a mineral block out in his pen that he LOVES) Have you tried any of those grains? I was looking for people with experience with these grains.
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post #4 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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It's like the phrase "if it's not broke, don't fix it."

If your horse is doing well on his feed there's no reason to change it..If you feel he is lacking nutrients in his feed add a all around mineral to his feed or a free choice mineral block. (Not a white salt block) Call your vet and ask what s/he thinks..It's not cool to make your horse a science project to see what happens for fun..

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post #5 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 12:13 PM
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I think experimenting with grain can be kinda dangerous to horses - giving them a greater chances to colic etc... and I would personally stay away from all the grain that you listed...

Why don't you look into an Ration Balancer... all the vitamins and minerals that a horses needs with out all the fillers that a regular grain will have in it.... a lot easier, a lot safer and HEALTHIER!!! ;)

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With an easy keeper in very light work, he doesn't actually need any grain. Good quality hay, free choice loose minerals and water are all he needs to meet his nutritional and caloric needs.

Good luck!

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post #7 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 12:18 PM
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I second the suggestion of a ration balancer!! Dynamite horse products are good to look into. I think SmartPak does a similar thing, and Horse Guard is a great product for those in selenium deficient areas.
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I think experimenting with grain can be kinda dangerous to horses - giving them a greater chances to colic etc... and I would personally stay away from all the grain that you listed...

Why don't you look into an Ration Balancer... all the vitamins and minerals that a horses needs with out all the fillers that a regular grain will have in it.... a lot easier, a lot safer and HEALTHIER!!! ;)
I've actually been looking into that. I'll have to check around and see if I can find some! But I don't think some people understand...Just cause I listed a couple types of grain, doesn't mean I'm just going to stop feeding what he's getting and pour this brand on today, pour another brand on tomorrow..etc. I think I know what I'm doing here. I wanted to experiment with ONE kind of grain. And, I'm not treating him like a lab rat AT ALL. Since when was it not safe to switch grains and see if your horse did better, worse, or no change at all? Last time I checked, people do that all the time. It can be dangerous, but as long as you try things slowly and with patience it's perfectly safe.
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It's completely different to want to change grain just for the fun of it...You want to keep your horse on a feed s/he does well on and stick with that. I would go with a ration balancer and just leave it at that.

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post #10 of 42 Old 02-07-2012, 12:28 PM Thread Starter
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Did I ever say I wanted to for the fun of it? No. That is exactly what I was saying; I want to find a feed he does well on and stick to that. And just because I said I like seeing what happens with different products I'm not talking about JUST GRAIN. I'm talking about lots of things. For example: Which flavor mineral block my horse likes better, which brand of fly spray works better, What kind of snaffle he prefers.. See? I'm pretty sure EVERYONE does that. I just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with any of the grains listed, and I was interested in trying one of them and seeing if he did better/worse/no change.
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