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  • Review on using buckeye ultimate finish 100 for weight gain
  • Buckeye ultimate finish 25

 
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    07-11-2011, 08:18 PM
  #11
Foal
Because he more than likely has ulcers, haha. With grain based feeds, while they may be high in fat, they irritate his stomach and cause him to crib. In the long run it is also cheaper. I could pay 12 dollars for a 50 pound bag of traditional hard feed, and feed 4-6 pounds a day, and pay 50 dollars for one month of feed....this would not include his hay pellets for his added forage, which in themselves are 50 dollars for one month. Or I can pay 50 dollars for two bags of ration balancer that will last me a little over 2 months, feed him at max 2 pounds in a day, and he gets the same vitamins and minerals as the other feed, with much less bulk and no irritation (the first ingredient is rice bran, if I remember correctly? But don't quote me).

Is there any thing I can add to his rations that is strictly fat and nothing else? Lol that would be amazing if something like that actually existed.
     
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    07-11-2011, 08:27 PM
  #12
Foal
Anyone ever heard of or used this? Its super low in protein (well comparatively speaking), and super high in fat!
     
    07-11-2011, 09:44 PM
  #13
Foal
You could take a look at Buckeye Ultimate Finish products, they're super high in fat, couldn't find a protein content on the website for the UF 100 but at 99% fat content that's pretty much all is - strictly fat.
     
    07-11-2011, 09:52 PM
  #14
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AbbeyCPA    
You could take a look at Buckeye Ultimate Finish products, they're super high in fat, couldn't find a protein content on the website for the UF 100 but at 99% fat content that's pretty much all is - strictly fat.
Oh!! The feed store literally a minute from the barn carries Buckeye! They probably won't have this on hand, but I can at least special order it then, if its not insanely expensive.

The main ingredient in this is vegetable fat.....any thoughts? I can't remember if vegetable oil is supposed to be good for horses, or if it makes them hot.
     
    07-12-2011, 11:47 AM
  #15
Foal
Called around to the local Buckeye feed stores....they all only have the UF 25 on hand, but I did some more searching and decided to try Cool Calories 100....SmarkPak carries it which means I can piggy back on the other people who use Smartpak at the barn, and its a cheaper sticker price for the exact same ingredients. Will try and get it before the end of the month so I can use August to guinea pig.....
     
    07-13-2011, 01:51 AM
  #16
Weanling
if you are looking for fat calories try cool calories

I'm giving it to my skinny TB. Everyone on here told me they had great luck with it especially with TBs one of the board members something eventer sorry can't remember her name exactly but she has tb turned me onto the Smart pak digest ultra that is supposed to be good for OTTBs and thay have literally hundreds of ppl that write in good reviews it heals ulcers and helps the entire gut work better pro biotiocs and all that. I bousht the smart gut and the smart digest ultra plus a HUGE bag of the cool calories. It seems to be working well I swear the horse has put on weight already in a week she looks fatter.....'
Oh and you know of course you can put veggie oil straight on the feed. Up to two cups I think. That is how I got a little skinny arab I bought to gain weight.
And she's a BUTTERBALL now.
     
    07-13-2011, 09:56 AM
  #17
Started
The supplement you posted is most likely flax base with a bit of rice bran

Flax is relatively cheap and effective and won't upset the nutritional balance you already have going ...
     
    07-13-2011, 11:35 AM
  #18
Foal
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Originally Posted by Peggysue    
the supplement you posted is most likely flax base with a bit of rice bran

Flax is relatively cheap and effective and won't upset the nutritional balance you already have going ...
My only issue with flax is that I cannot get out to the barn during the week, and the BO wouldn't prepare flax for me, and the barn hand would never remember to do it....I mean I had my gelding on a sand product at the beginning of the month, and almost 3 weeks later its still half full (I know because I bagged it for 7 days).the more fool proof my supplements are, the better.

The cool calories looks like a really safe option, next to the buckeye, it it pretty much entirely vegetable fat. The original supplement I linked to was corn, vegetable oil, and THEN flax.

As for the smartgut/smart digest he has no digestive problems....sold poop, and when he was on a higher alfalfa diet he did gain a bit of weight, but he became super fizzy so I don't think he has problems absorbing nutrients, he just needs more fat in his diet since he's only getting like 5% now (I believe that's the ration balancer max ratio). But if this doesn't work, then I will start experimenting with probiotics
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    07-13-2011, 12:49 PM
  #19
Foal
You don't necessarily need to prepare the flax, it can be fed as a whole seed contrary to what most think
     
    07-13-2011, 01:16 PM
  #20
Foal
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Originally Posted by AbbeyCPA    
you don't necessarily need to prepare the flax, it can be fed as a whole seed contrary to what most think
That is true, but depending on my full size horse to meticulously chew the seeds would be dumb--he's choked before because he just wolfs everything down (the hay cubes have helped with this though) so it would almost be a waste of money, even though a 50 lb bag would last a long time. Also, they are high in protein? I could only find a nutritional breakdown where flax was listed as a great additive to bran mashes so the bran could be high in protein, and not the flax, so that could be wrong.
     

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