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post #21 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you SO much for this information. :)

I really appreciate it! I had no idea where to start.

Are there feeding forums something like this:
Dog Food Nutrition Forum

My biggest challenge is getting my mom to feed the right way.

She still has her dog on kibble even though she sees what my dogs are like on raw. :(
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post #22 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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Her eldest horse (who I don't have listed on here yet!) has issues with cushings. :/
I think her vet recommended Safe Choice for him...he's colicked in the past as well. He came to her already pretty old.
I honestly think all three are waaaaaaay too fat (Brandon and Tyler came to us fat too).
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post #23 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 09:39 AM
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I haven't read all of the replies but to answer a question, Safechoice is a great feed in my opinion and its a good one to give to horses who tend to get over weight. I am a big fan of free choice hay and salt blocks, maybe cutting back on the feed but still offering a nice quality complete feed. For the most part, I stick with complete feeds, however Safechoice is in my barn as well.

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post #24 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 10:05 AM
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SafeChoice is not a good choice for cushings horses. Those horses need to be on an especially low NSC diet, even more so than a healthy horse.

There is a great cushings related forum on Yahoo Groups that has members with great nutritional knowledge. They welcome any nutrition related question.
EquineCushings : Equine Cushings and Insulin Resistance

Another cushings related group:
ECHorsekeeping : EquineCushings & IR - Off Topic Issues

Dr Kellon has done a lot of great research on cushings and insulin resistance. Many "fat" horses have some form of IR. She is sometimes on the first group that I listed above.

This group is about barefoot horse care, but nutrition is a VERY big part of successful barefoot horses, so there is a lot of discussion on it there.
barefoothorsecare : Barefoot Horse Care

I don't know much about this group, but it looks interesting.
EquinesEatingWell : Equine Wellness Through Nutrition

This is a great web site with a lot of good information:
Safer Grass - A Resource for Equine Forage Nutrition

A great book:
Foxden Equine Nutrition & Therapy - Storey's Guide to Feeding Horses Book

A good online equine nutrition consultant (has a PhD in equine nutrition).
Home - Summit Equine Nutrition
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post #25 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 10:07 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you thank you thank you!!! <3
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post #26 of 112 Old 01-04-2011, 10:15 AM
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Just want to make sure everyone realizes it, as I am not sure it was clear in luvs2ride's posts. Oats are not a good feed if you are trying to go for a low NSC diet. They are not a good feed if you are trying to keep the NSC level even moderate.

Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979 View Post
Love the Smartvite supplements. I use the Easy Keeper Grass for mine. Just want to mention that even though it is a pellet they can still eat around it if they want to.

Smartpak will send you a sample if you call. Worth it to make sure your horse will eat the supplement before ordering a whole months worth.
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Oh goodness, I am completely overwhelmed with this thread. I am a huge advocate for natural care of dogs and cats. I don't feed raw because mine absolutely refuse no matter how many different ways I present it(they rather do without eating) but they do get fed as close as possible to natural. Horse nutrition I don't know anything about. Guess I will have to learn just like the my dogs and cat. My horse gets bermuda/alfalfa mix pellets about 12 pounds and two cups Integrity Lite split between two feedings. Is this ok? Sorry OP not trying to hijack thread I just have been curious about this. Thanks
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post #28 of 112 Old 01-07-2011, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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I don't mind one bit, I'm learning with you. :)

My dogs took to raw like fish to water, but my cat won't have ANYTHING to do with it!

"My treasures do not clink together or glitter; They gleam in the sun and neigh in the night."
-Arabian Proverb
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Originally Posted by spookychick13 View Post
Thank you. :)
I forgot to mention Safe Choice is a pellet.

I will ask my mom to cut the grain out completely and cut the safe choice down a bit as well.

Both of them are way too heavy in my opinion...they came to us chubby. :)
Safe choice does also have a version with less calories.
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post #30 of 112 Old 01-08-2011, 09:26 AM
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There is only ONE Safe Chjoice althoguh Nutrema did come out with a balancer in the Empower line that looks good on paper

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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