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    01-09-2013, 02:24 PM
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Green Broke
Where should I go from here?

I bought (sorta feels like a rescue at this point) a 12 year old gelding who was a bit underweight. I put him on Safechoice original and Truple Crowns Omega max. This is what he's currently on-

AM-
2 1/2 pounds of Safechoice
A scoop of Cosequin ASU
1/2 pound of omega max

PM-
2 1/2 pounds of Safechoice
1/2 pound of omega max

His feed is watered down both meals every day so he cannot pick through it. Now, he's fed all together 5 pounds of safechoice a day and a pound of omega max (which is stableized ground golden flax seed) a day. And of course the cosequin scoop in the Am.

He could stand to gain a few more pounds and he is fed over 30 pounds of hay a day. I don't feed free choice but I always leave enough out to where they have some leftover.

What would you do to add more weight on this boy? Up his grain? He's on the max amount of Omega Max that they say you can give. Or should I try alfalfa pellets or beet pulp? He could probably gain atleast 50 more pounds if not less. He wasnt that skinny when I got him but his spine did stick out a bit and you could definitely feel ribs. He could have been worse then I thought cause his coat is massive. It's hard to tell the difference with just pix, though.
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    01-09-2013, 02:29 PM
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Green Broke
He should be on the max amount of safechoice by his ideal weight. My friends saddlebred gets 8lbs per day of safechoice. I would up that and perhaps add some alfalfa pellets as well.
     
    01-09-2013, 02:35 PM
  #3
Trained
For how long have you had him on this diet?
It takes time to put weight on, so be patient
Was he wormed, had his teeth checked?
What type of hay?
I wouldn't just yet up the Safe Choice.
What would help in any case is at least three, if not more, smaller meals.
     
    01-09-2013, 02:51 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I can't feed three meals a day because I work. I feed though both Am and Pm. I've had him going on 3 months and he's been on this diet about a week after I got him. I just upped the omega max but it doesn't seem to be helping any more then it already has. I didnt know if I should add anything more because I feel like he gets alot of stuff in his diet now. (Even though its not THAT much)

Teeth were done the week after I got him. He was wormed the first month I had him with Equimax and the second month was with a panacur powerpac as he was a bit wormy.

The hay is a Timothy/orchard type mix. The old owner swares he was 1300 pounds when up to weight but id lean more towards 1200, maybe. Safechoice recommends he's fed between 6/9 pounds per day but I'm not trying to make him hot or over feed him too.
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    01-09-2013, 02:53 PM
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Green Broke
Safechoice won't make him hot. But if you don't want to up that add some alfalfa pellets.
     
    01-09-2013, 03:07 PM
  #6
Trained
Okay, all taken care of
Yeah, alfalfa pellets, soaked, would be a good idea.
You could change him to a senior feed to get him up to weight. I've had good results with Nutrena Life Design senior and free choice oat/alfalfa hay. 3 lbs of senior got my mare back up to weight in a month.
Or Triple Crown senior.
The senior feeds are more easily digestible.
Or add Nutrena Empower Boost, Purina Ultium or Purina Amplify. Little of those is needed to have effect.
Canola oil, a cup a day.
So, plenty of choices
     
    01-09-2013, 03:08 PM
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Green Broke
Actually the Safechoice original and the senior are almost identical. Both contain pro/prebiotics and the safechoice has 1% higher fat. Not to mention about $3 less a bag.
     
    01-09-2013, 03:14 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Yes poppy, thanks for that! I did my research between the safechoice and senior feeds and safechoixe seemed to be my best bet...even though I think it smells like garlic.

So alfalfa cubes soaked would be good? How much do I give? Do I keep his safechoixe at the same and just add the alfalfa pellets? Thanks :)
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    01-09-2013, 03:27 PM
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Green Broke
When you feed as much as you do the tiny difference between the two doesn't matter for the price difference. I would leave the safechoice at the same amount and add the alfalfa in. My horse won't eat cubes only pellets. But if you have the cubes and your horse eats them all the better. Cubes are a bigger pain to soak though. Desert can give the amount to feed. I gave 1lb per feeding but that is because my mare wouldn't eat more than that in one sitting.
     
    01-09-2013, 03:37 PM
  #10
Green Broke
What did you mean by this?-
When you feed as much as you do the tiny difference between the two doesn't matter for the price difference.

Sorry, I didn't understand it.
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