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    05-23-2010, 01:06 PM
Green Broke
Fiona's growing like a weed!

She's 13.2 hh, and wont even be 2 months until June 5th. I had to move her up into a yearling halter from her weanling halter already. (Ad it's such an ugly color, but it was all TSC had and I was in a hurry. Bleh.)

She's shedding out to the dark around her eyes and muzzle. Pretty sure she will end up the same black/black bay as Finn.

What is surprising me more, though, than the similarities between her and Finn, is how many differences there are! Her size, and build, compared to him at the same age, is very dissimilar.

Example ~

Finn at 7 weeks (just before I got him and Freyja):

Fiona at 7 weeks:

She's already a much heavier build than he is - much more muscular, much thicker neck. Finn has always been kind of tall and slender, though still clearly drafty. She's also much bigger than he is at the same age - she's 13.2 now, Finn was 13.2 at 5 months! When Finn got here at 2 months old, he was around 11 hands even. I expect Finn to mature pretty darn huge - is Fiona going to be even bigger? Or is she just going to be much stockier? I've not string tested her yet for an est. Height, I guess I should. Finn's string test puts him at 18.2 hh at maturity.

I wouldn't have expected such differences out of two foals from the same parents! It is absolutely certain there is no mix up on the parentage - Freyja was turned out in a pasture with the same stallion from halfway through her pregnancy of her 2008 foal, then she conceived Finn, through his birth, the subsequent conception of Fiona, and up until she came to me, still nursing Finn and pregnant with Fiona. Absolutely no exposure to any other stallions than Wandamere Patches during any of that time.

She also has a very different personality than Finn at this age - although that's not surprising. Finn had just made a 1,100 mile trailer ride, and had never been touched before coming to me. Even after he was gentled and halterbroke, though, he was always a real fireball, very spirited. He only started developing his calm, draft-like personality after he hit about 7 months of age. Fiona certainly has her share of running bucking, and normal foal antics, but she's a very calm, easy going, and friendly little filly. Follows you around constantly, and will approach anyone who will give her a rump scratch.

I also have a separate question *lol* Fiona has a patch of "loose skin" around her navel. Her navel was kept iodined and dry for the first week until it fell off. It doesn't look anything like hernia's I'm familiar with, the musculature underneath feels solid, it's just like the skin is a little "baggy" right there. The vet checked her navel when he did the post-birth and 1 week check and had said everything was fine....I don't think it's a hernia. Anyone familiar with this?

Anyways, more pics of Fiona from this morning!

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    05-23-2010, 01:24 PM
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She is so cute! Goodness gracious. And big! *drools*

It could be that Freyja (how do you say her name? It's spelled like you'd say it pretty cool but I have no clue, haha) is getting more nutrition and is in better health (she certainly looks way healthier than she does in the first picture with her and Fin) so she's being more nutritious for Fiona than she was for Fin. And, right now she's only feeding 2, before she was feeding 3, really. They're full siblings, right?
Also, it could just be normal genetic differences since Fin is only one of a billion different ways Freyja and the stud's DNA could combine.
I know when I had a litter of guinea pigs (only two babies) the parents were doubly inbred, their parents were siblings and they were siblings (I aquired the mom when she was pregnant, I didn't want her pregnant! Haha), so you'd assume that there wasn't TOO much genetic variation left, right? Well, the mom and the male baby were both very stocky, they weren't fat, just very muscular and hefty. The female baby on the other hand, was very light boned. They were the exact same size at birth but she just stayed very small while her brother got huge. They were on the same diet, same everything. I had them for about 3 years and that was always the case, mom and brother were big while little sister was tiny.

Wow, totally went OT there! Sorry!
    05-23-2010, 02:18 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Wallaby    
She is so cute! Goodness gracious. And big! *drools*

It could be that Freyja (how do you say her name? It's spelled like you'd say it pretty cool but I have no clue, haha) is getting more nutrition and is in better health (she certainly looks way healthier than she does in the first picture with her and Fin) so she's being more nutritious for Fiona than she was for Fin. And, right now she's only feeding 2, before she was feeding 3, really. They're full siblings, right?

Heh heh thanks!

Her name is pronounced [FRAY-yuh] - she's named after the norse goddess of fertility - felt it was appropriate for a broodmare who'd had a LOT of babies in her life.

She was definitely in very, very bad shape when I got her - that picture of her with Finn makes her look good for the shape she was in, honestly. I've thought about that, she was so starving when I got her, and had doubtlessly been starved through her pregnancy with Finn as well. But wouldn't Finn have then outgrown that when he got here? He's stayed pretty (comparatively) light, even now. He's only a yearling, but still is rather tall and slim, looks more like a TB/draft cross than the 3/4 draft that he is, he's never been super-sticky like Fiona already is. Yes, full siblings a year apart, both out of the same dam, Freyja (Shire/Paint x ) and same stallion Paddy, (Shire).

Thanks for the answer though, like you said it's probably just different genetic possibilities, and I think your story about the lil pigs is fascinating!
    05-23-2010, 03:33 PM
Green Broke
HOLY BIG BABY! Wow she is huge! But adorable!!!
    05-23-2010, 04:11 PM
Sometimes the genes just get mixed a different way even with the same sire and dam. I bet a big part of his problem is that he and Freyja both were bordering on severe malnutrition when you got them and sometimes on a young horse, that can have lasting effects. When my Dad was in the Appy show world about 35 years ago, there was a stud named Tumbleweed Devil. He stood just barely over 14 hands tall and they bred him to the same mare 5 or 6 times. The mare was just an inch or 2 taller than Devil and all the foals grew up to be about that size too. Then Devilweed was born from the same combination but he finished up at over 16 hands tall. That is one thing that is so interesting about breeding horses. No matter how many times you breed the same pair, you will never get the same foal twice LOL. Fiona is growing up to be one heck of a stout looking girl and she has got such a cute face, very drafty .

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