Wow,....what can I say except that is certainly NOT what I would have done to a dead green jumper. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you sandbagged that horse. You were hardly fair to him and I wouldn't be surprised if this did more damage than good for his training.
I doubt I did more damage. With a horse with a different personality type I wouldn't have tried this. Honestly though it is hard to describe how he differs in every aspect.
And that is a good thing?
Yes, I was trying to crack a joke. The people at these shows think they have crazy rides when their horse trips, or tosses its head. The people are low level with very calm horses. I came in with a hot one, and people considered him crazy when he was on good show behavior. I was trying to compare to my worst scenario of what happens when you put a horse that has only barrel raced in any other, calmer event at a show.
He seemed really prepared for this.....NOT!! WHY would you take a horse to what appears to be a large show...so unprepared? I can think of no reason for this.
It doesn't matter if he had years of training, the first show was always going to be a disaster. As stated before there was nothing I could do to convince him that going to a show didn't mean that he had to haul butt around a barrel course. Over 7+ years of once a month showing in speed events meant that out of habit he was going to act like he did. Once again its a personality thing for him, he is very rooted in his habits.
Please tell me this is a troll and you really don't think this is a good thing.
Nope not a troll. Yes I thought it was good that my horse, that can run blind when excited, didn't go to this state of mind. He looked where he was going and focused on where he was going.
What you don't seem to understand is that SMOOTH is fast. Fighting a horse and jerking him around, as you did, loses so much time you will never win at higher levels that way. Every time you jerk those reins you lose seconds. My students know that they should try to ride a jumper course softly and with finesse.
I had no intentions to place at this show. I know the fact that smooth is fast, at a working canter you have the horse moving at a comfortable pace and using its body effectively, which I force him to slow down to a crawl, so he is working twice as hard and fights me. I'm working on it, its a bad habit on my part that I'm trying to break. I was nervous as heck, and went back to old habits of thinking I had to slow him down.
The really sad thing here, in my opinion, is that this looks like he could be a really talented horse with good consistent training both on the flat and over fences. Running him around a course throwing him at fences is only going to ruin him.
You have a wonderful horse at your disposal and you look like you could be a very talented rider. But, you will never prevail if you continue with this kind of thing.
I always try to be nice and keep things constructive and I have really controlled myself here. Please, be the rider you can be and give that horse a chance.
Allison, I respect your opinion and you obvious experience. You seem to know what you're talking about. Honestly I have no one to turn to for helping with training. I have my friend who is training me, but after she got us over some initial issues I want to move on. I took a lesson or two with the BO (trainer) and she would have got me NO where. I'm not allowed to bring other trainers onto the property, and I don't have a truck to haul my trailer. I can't afford to board at any stables that have more respectable trainers, and heck I have never liked any trained I have ever been with. Half of the people have told me that Jake is useless trash, and would rather euthanize than owning. That he would be nothing more than a lawn ornament for basic riding.
I'm half way between the lines of "I don't have the resources to make anything better and I want to show." and "maybe if I sit back and work I can improve." For so long I've had people tell me that I'm lucky to have gotten far, and that I'm possibly at the limit.
I joined this forum in order to try and find help, where I can't in the non-virtual world.