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        03-24-2010, 04:38 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EveningShadows    
    I want her to keep whatever's natural to her and whatever's FUNCTIONAL for her - my idea isn't to change her feet, but to make them strong enough to keep up.
    Having said that ^^ you would probably find this site really interesting, whether you decide to shoe or not -
    Barefoot for Soundness
    Although it is a barefoot-promoting site, it has loads of info about correct shape, parts of the hoof and their function, faults in the hoof, etc. and I think it's educational relevant to everyone.

    And Eve is gorgeous as always!
         
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        03-24-2010, 04:39 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Those are no small flares, they are huge! That all needs to be taken off, all the way around. That is most likely why she is cracking.

    Thrush005.jpg
    The pink line shows her actual hoof and what size it should be. The yellow is all overgrowth and needs to be trimmed off to prevent cracking and more white line stretching that I am betting is pretty uncomfortable. Also her bars are over grown and crushed, they need to be trimmed down, and her heels are running foreward, they need to be backed up to a normal level.

    gallery-04a-Boomer-front.jpg This is a healthy Draft horse hoof.


    Other than that and the white line stretching due to that, they look nice and healthy.

    I am not saying to make her have tiny hooves, but her hooves now are unhealthy and need to be trimmed, she does not need pancake hooves either, as they are now, they are not functional if they keep cracking and that is due to the flares.

    ETS: haha Redhawk, I was going to add that site too to explain about the flares and such.
         
        03-24-2010, 11:13 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    RedHawk - thanks, I'll definitely check out that site tomorrow, I got home late tonight and work early in the morning! I'll go through it after our dressage lesson tomorrow, thanks again!

    Honeysuga - I understand she has some flaring at her quarters but I don't see how she's so overgrown. She was trimmed March 15, so barely a week and a half ago. I don't want her walking on her soles...she has tender feet as is if she steps on a rock. I also asked my farrier, who's been trimming both barefoot and shoeing for over 30 years, about her white line because of a comment you made about another post of mine and he said she's fine. A bit stretched at the quarters where she's flared, but nothing to be concerned about and it's certainly fixable. I do agree that her bars need to be trimmed and I'll do that on the weekend, but to say she has unhealthy hooves is a little much.

    The pink line you drew, to me, is not how she should be trimmed...you outlined her SOLE. The yellow scribble you put on there is her entire hoof wall. I didn't ask him to do a "classic" barefoot trim where the horse walks on every part of their foot...this farrier's been working with my horses for over 8 years and Eve is our first problem with flares. My mom had a mare that did the same but he brought her around now and she's golden.

    I'm not meaning to get defensive, but I asked the pro's and con's of shoeing a horse...not for a farrier critique. If you have something to add about shoes, you experience with them, or a reason NOT to shoe a horse, let's here it...but if you're only going to point out what you see to be flaws, please don't.
         
        03-25-2010, 12:19 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Eve is looking great ! You did a good job with her :)
    Next time I come out, I want to see you ride her ;) !


    Im glad you had a wonderful birthday !
         
        03-25-2010, 03:15 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    I didn't mean to point out just the flaws, other than the flaring, they look great(said that in my other post.

    Sorry for the post, didn't mean it to turn out that way, was really tired last night and was just trying to help.

    I was trying to address what you said about functionality and the fact that she cracks that much, I was giving you the reason, which 9/10 is caused by too much pressure on the walls of her hooves(which will also make her appear "tender footed", when it is really the stretching that causes the pain you are noticing and really not much actual tenderness at all), which is fixed by getting them off the ground(and if they are constantly cracking, and because of the stretching, thrush, and flaring, they are indeed not as healthy as they could be if trimmed up more).

    Because she is tender footed, I think shoes would benefit her greatly in helping to get her walls up off the ground, stopping the cracking and making her feet more functional overall.

    ETA, the pink line IS her sole, which should only be a little bit smallerthan the hoof ATG, with the walls rolled all the way around to relieve pressure. You kinda have to pick between getting her sole on the ground(of course this is what is actually supposed to be the weight baring surface on a healthy hoof...) or having her walls support her weight and flare and stretch and crack...
         

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