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post #41 of 73 Old 01-26-2013, 12:36 AM
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Pretty good. “Excellent, man, where are you from in Lebanon? Your Arab horses look like mine from when I lived in Jordan”. Sorry. I learned Arabic by living with Bedouin in the south of Jordan and I have found that every Lebanese person I speak Bedouin Arabic to barley understands me, different dialects and all.
AH it makes it harder when the arabic is written in english! I am learning a different dialect i think then you speak. But the arabic language is like my teacher would say"a very rich language". Did you know there are 200 words for horse in arabic?
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post #42 of 73 Old 01-26-2013, 07:26 PM
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Like camel, you wouldn’t believe how many words Bedouin have for camels.
But yeah, it makes it hard if its transliterated; you'd probably be learning modern standard wouldn't you? I learned that with the idea being it gives a good foundation to learn any dialect that you come across, but after spending over a year living with Bedouin all I can speak now is the Bedouin one. Learn modern standard and you wont be in the situation I'm in now where I go and talk with people even from the north of Jordan and they don’t understand me much, most of them can pick that I'm speaking a Bedouin dialect from the south but they cant understand it well. I talk to people from Lebanon here and they just think I learned Arabic wrong, Lebanese is quite different.
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Like camel, you wouldn’t believe how many words Bedouin have for camels.
But yeah, it makes it hard if its transliterated; you'd probably be learning modern standard wouldn't you? I learned that with the idea being it gives a good foundation to learn any dialect that you come across, but after spending over a year living with Bedouin all I can speak now is the Bedouin one. Learn modern standard and you wont be in the situation I'm in now where I go and talk with people even from the north of Jordan and they don’t understand me much, most of them can pick that I'm speaking a Bedouin dialect from the south but they cant understand it well. I talk to people from Lebanon here and they just think I learned Arabic wrong, Lebanese is quite different.
Im learning the purest and most original form of arabic. im not sure most people will understand me because most of them speak the slang. so no not really the modren version of arabic.

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OK, you are probably learning classical Arabic then, or Qur’anic Arabic, same thing. Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) is almost the same as classical Arabic; and you are right, most people can’t speak it much, though if you talk to people they should get the gist of what you are saying. In Arabic MSA and classical are kind of lumped under the category fussah, while the dialects are referred to as amiyah.
Amiyah isn’t really slang though, though people do speak slang. Given the diversity of Arab people, there is also massive diversity in their dialects. The good thing is though that the dialects people speak are nowhere near as complex and hard as MSA or classical Arabic. So most of the case endings and tanween are gone, and many of the conjugations are much more simple, though different enough to be confusing till you get the hang of them. They do have completely different words for everything though.
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You got it exactly. I am learning the quranic arabic. wasn't sure if you knew what that was or not. Silly me. you lived in lebanon and jordan ? as well . so you most probably know what kind of arabic that is. yup i am reading a arabic book that uses not that old but still not up to our time modren arabic.


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OK, you are probably learning classical Arabic then, or Qur’anic Arabic, same thing. Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) is almost the same as classical Arabic; and you are right, most people can’t speak it much, though if you talk to people they should get the gist of what you are saying. In Arabic MSA and classical are kind of lumped under the category fussah, while the dialects are referred to as amiyah.
Amiyah isn’t really slang though, though people do speak slang. Given the diversity of Arab people, there is also massive diversity in their dialects. The good thing is though that the dialects people speak are nowhere near as complex and hard as MSA or classical Arabic. So most of the case endings and tanween are gone, and many of the conjugations are much more simple, though different enough to be confusing till you get the hang of them. They do have completely different words for everything though.

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Nah, I lived in Jordan, never been to Lebanon, though I know quite a few people from Lebanon; apparently they have quite a bit of French in their Arabic too. The people I lived with in Jordan are Bedouin in the south, so their Arabic tends to be more closely related to Saudi Arabic. In the north its mostly Palestinian Arabic.
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I can't believe im having a conversation about the arabic language outside of school.
I think all that last minute studying is getting to my brain.

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I don't know how you make any sense of that. LOL
Mind you, I couldn't even get French. :p

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I don't know how you make any sense of that. LOL
Mind you, I couldn't even get French. :p

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Pretty good. “Excellent, man, where are you from in Lebanon? Your Arab horses look like mine from when I lived in Jordan”. Sorry. I learned Arabic by living with Bedouin in the south of Jordan and I have found that every Lebanese person I speak Bedouin Arabic to barley understands me, different dialects and all.
Hala hala... Ah yes... Horses is Syria, Jordan and Lebanon are not very different. I recently learned there are many kinds of Arabian horses and they don't all look the same.

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