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        03-30-2012, 05:27 AM
      #11
    Started
    Agreeing with you guys..... it is very dangerous. Just getting on a horse is dangerous....anything can happen..... they are unpredictable animals. Although it seems cool it could turn bad and he may use it against you. Its like teaching your horse to deliberately buck.......
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        03-30-2012, 05:50 AM
      #12
    Trained
    I am about to unmake friends here. Lol

    I believe that, so long as the horse is balanced and the rider as well, rearing is not something that is going to be anymore dangerous than teaching a horse to turn a barrel.

    Uh-oh, better not turn that barrel...Horse could fall and roll over on me.

    Better not jump either....Horse could slip and kill me.

    Come to think of it, maybe I shouldn't even get on the horse. Looks pretty high up. The horse could lose its footing in a hole, and by some freak accident I could get rolled on and die....

    And ya know...Those stairs on my porch...Those are dangerous. I could slip and fall.

    Better stay in bed today...Oh wait, I could fall off. Maybe I'd better just wrap myself in bubble wrap and curl up in a straight jacket and padded room.

    Enough snarking from me. I've seen a lot of stupid people teaching their horse to rear and having bad consequences, but I don't believe the OP is stupid nor do I believe her horse is. Like I said in my original post I don't see a bad rear, I see the beginnings of a balanced rear.

    The only thing I would change is perfecting it more from the ground until he can keep a better position with his front legs as well.
         
        03-30-2012, 06:00 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    The real danger is to the horse.
    My daughter was encouraged to teach our Cochise to rear by an irresponsible drill team captain.
    It ruined him.
    Whenever he was confused, or just resistant after that, he would rear.
    Instead of being a trusted child's horse in his later years, he was unsafe for anyone to ride.
    Lucky for him, we kept him until the end.
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        03-30-2012, 07:07 AM
      #14
    Banned
    SorelHorse,

    You make some great points, and you haven't unmade a friend as far as I'm concerned.

    But from my standpoint whether or not the OP is a competent horseperson who's done this in a reasonably safe manner is not the problem.

    The problem is if the thread only has positive comments, and no one addresses why this can be a truly terrible idea, the next impressionable backyard owner sees it and thinks "Cool! I can't wait to teach my horse that!"

    I think it would be irresponsible of us NOT to point out all the reasons this can be dangerous, regardless of the competence of the OP.

    In the same fashion, in the jumping forum, I harp on using ground lines and constructing fences safely. Some of the horses pictured are excellent jumpers with good riders on them and in no risk of hitting the fence, but I'm still going to point out the safety issues because of the next kid who reads the thread will think it's okay to construct a fence out of lawn chairs and broomsticks to teach their green pony to jump.
         
        03-30-2012, 07:14 AM
      #15
    Trained
    Certainly not what I would ever want in any horse......I would rather have someone spend the time to get everything else perfect and have a horse well trained to do something actually useful as opposed to something dangerous. IMO-you just ruined any possible value of this horse to someone else. Heaven forbid something happens to you and he needs to be sold. THe first person he does this to-who may be unsuspecting-he will be on the first truck to the meat market. Again-JMHO.
         
        03-30-2012, 07:19 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    ^ That is what could have happened to Cochise, but we had him 19 years, and we kept him until the end, even though he was dangerous to ride.
         
        03-30-2012, 08:03 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    All of you make very good points! I realize that this is very dangerous, but, you have to realize that I would *Never* do this on a horse that I felt would blow up on me. I have taught him to do many things already, including doing groundwork (like Clinton Anderson's horse Mindy) halterless. Obviously, he's not as good as she is, yet, but I intend to get him there! This has taken me about a month and a half to get him to this point. You also have to realize that I videotape my workouts on my ipod so that I can get the screenshots (nobody tell!! It's a secret!) for the pictures that I take. The first picture that I posted was his highest... and I don't plan on much higher as I'm a chicken when it comes to these things. Yes, I barrel race, yes, I break colts for my aunt lol. Odd, right? Also, I plan on owning this horse for the rest of his life! If a freak accident happens and I am forced to sell him, I will make sure that the new owners know about his rearing button, although it would be extremely hard to get, unless you're just plain stupid and need a beginners horse, which he is not. I'm sure it could happen, but the odds are it won't. Either way, I would make sure that the new owners knew what his rearing button is. The reason why I started teaching him to rear is because of a bad habit he had learned before I got him. When pivoting, he would like to half-rear around the circle. So, I began teaching him the difference of a rear from a pivot, and he has since gotten really good at his pivots! I personally know someone who landed herself in a wheelchair for the better half of a year for a horse rearing and falling over top of her... she just barely missed the horn. The accident happened on bad footing at a barrel race. Thank you all for the advice and opinions, this was just kind of my victory post. Yesterday he finally made three full pivots to the left and to the right, rear not included!
    *Sorry if there are typos or if that didn't make any sense... I'm on my way out the door this morning and typed this in about two minutes flat.
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        03-30-2012, 04:33 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Barrel Bunny
    We don't a child reading this and teaching this to a horse
    And have an accident
    Just be careful
         
        03-30-2012, 04:54 PM
      #19
    Started
    I'm sorry, but this is a disaster waiting to happen.
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        03-30-2012, 04:54 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Yes, I know. I just didn't want any confusion.
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