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Is she a palomino or chestnut...tobiano or Overo?

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    07-18-2010, 10:35 AM
She is SO butt high right now its cute X'D
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    07-18-2010, 01:37 PM
100% without a doubt chestnut "tovero" which means she has the tobiano gene and at least one of the over genes (which are sabino, splash, frame, and dominant white). If she were tobiano alone she would have a larger chest sheild and a solid head. NEVER go by APHA, they're way behind the research ;)
    07-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Thanks everyone! I couldn't for the life of me figure out what "pattern" she was considered. She looked very light in color when she was first born, then turned chestnut, now she's shedding her baby fur and is shedding even lighter than when she was born. This is a picture of her today that I took, that shows she is a lighter than a couple weeks ago when I took the other picture! Let me know what you think about it.. Thanks!
** Also all these pictures are with a camera phone and they are making her look a little darker than she really is.

    07-19-2010, 12:27 AM
I want to say Tobiano, and probably Chestnut...
    07-19-2010, 01:52 AM
Still chestnut :) And cute!
    07-19-2010, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickDirtyDancin    
Chestnut tobiano.

I believe those that said tovero are mistaking the face marking as a bald face in which it would have to extend too or past the inside corner of one or both eyes. She doesn't hold the markings of an Overo.

If you really want to look more into her color though(not pattern) than you can always do a genetic test with UC Davis.
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None of us said that is a bald face and you don't need a bald face to have overo gene. If you believe that you are very mistaken. This horse shows several signs of overo. Even the current blaze has signs of sabino - a type of overo just by the way it expands over the lower lip. The tobiano shield is quite small and the tail which is normally two-toned is not - but many toveros have one solid white tail due to the overo gene overlap. In addition, tobianos typically have their dark color cross over the back at some point in the pattern, but when overo is present it can prevent his from happening - again, this has also happened on this foal indicating overo is present.

Many tobianos carry overo genes and this is why even two tobianos should be checked for the potential of the lethal white gene before breeding because so many people miss the signs of overo.
    07-20-2010, 05:52 AM
As a current and previous owner of all three patterns of registered APHA/PtHA horses I still stand by chestnut tobiano. The overo might be apparent in the genes and blood but not in the appearance.
    07-20-2010, 07:19 AM
And as a current horse genetic nut/studier, I stand by tovero and say the over part IS in appearance ;)
    07-20-2010, 01:51 PM
Green Broke
Since when did owning a specific pattern make you an expert at it? Silly argument to use. Granted pattern & color genetics is just a hobby of mine and I am no "expert" - its hard for me to believe that anyone who actually knows the patterns can't see the overo in there. Oh well - silly to argue over it. If the OP wants to know for sure - she can get a genetics test done.
    07-20-2010, 02:00 PM
Green Broke
I would say chestnut tovero

She is really cute :)

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