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post #21 of 28 Old 02-05-2010, 04:16 PM
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Champagne or a light Pally. Not a cremello at all. They have pink skin and blue eyes...

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post #22 of 28 Old 02-05-2010, 07:39 PM
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With black skin, it's impossible for him to be cremello, perlino, smoky cream, OR champagne. They all have pink skin.


Black skin and brown eyes = Palomino or dirty gray

Those are the only possibilities.

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post #23 of 28 Old 02-05-2010, 10:42 PM
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I went back and read the other replies. And wow...






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i would call it a Cremello... but people dont like that so he would probably be considered palomino or maybe roan
What do you mean "people don't like it"? Even if someone doesn't like a color, it doesn't change what color the horse is. With no pink skin and no blue eyes, he cannot possibly be a cremello. I agree with you that he's probably a palomino, but where did you get roan from? Roans always have heads and legs that are significantly darker than the rest of their body.

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It looks cremello to me.
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Looks like he's a cremello, he's sure is beautiful!
Um, no. Cremellos ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have pink skin and blue eyes. If a horse doesn't have those two things, there is no way they're cremello.

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Champagne. Cremello's have pink skin and blue eyes.
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I have a funny coloured palomino at home, but I'd say he's champaign. Who cares what colour he is - he's flipping gorgeous! What is he bred for?
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He defiantly looks Champagne to me. What a beaut!
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That horse is gorgeous by the way! I think that he is a champagne, too.
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I'm going to say Champagne as well...
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Champagne or a light Pally. Not a cremello at all. They have pink skin and blue eyes...
Champagnes have pink skin. It's just covered in freckles so it isn't as bright as the pink skin of a cremello or perlino or smoky cream. It usually looks something like this when found on a chestnut base coat: http://www.horse-genetics.com/images/Champagne-Cool-head.jpg

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Just looks palomino to me. I believe Champagne would have pinkish skin (not the same pink as a cremello), this horse's skin looks to dark. So just palomino!
Yep, you're right. The reason the pink skin on a champagne horse looks different than the pink skin on a cremello is because it's covered in tiny freckles. It's still pink, though : ]
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post #24 of 28 Old 02-06-2010, 02:00 AM
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Thanks CloudMystique. I was almost positive champagnes had pink skin, but it's the one color I'm extremely unfamilier with. I had glanced at the Champagne Registry page, and naturally couldn't seem to find it and now when I look again, I see it was right in front of me.

The usual way the Champagne gene affects a red (chestnut/sorrel) based horse is to create a golden body color with a flaxen, or near-white, mane & tail. This horse is usually registered as a Palomino, even though the skin is some shade of pink with freckles, not the normal dark skin of the Palomino. The term "mottled", under skin color, may allow for this in the PHBA registry (Palomino Horse Breeders of America.)

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post #25 of 28 Old 02-06-2010, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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Just looked up colours of parents.
Sire-Bay
Dam-Palomino

I got some photos of him today myself and he looked even lighter then these ones,will upload them so you can see.He was way better then i thought,beautiful to ride,so comfy,so balanced,great temp,very lazy though lol...but to be expected being out of work and paddock condition.
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Just looked up colours of parents.
Sire-Bay
Dam-Palomino

I got some photos of him today myself and he looked even lighter then these ones,will upload them so you can see.He was way better then i thought,beautiful to ride,so comfy,so balanced,great temp,very lazy though lol...but to be expected being out of work and paddock condition.

Well, that narrows things down a bit : ]

He can only be bay, chestnut, black, buckskin, palomino, or smoky black. It's quite obvious that he isn't any of those but palomino.


It's genetically impossible for him to be any type of double dilute (cremello, perlino, or smoky cream) because his parents only have one cream gene between the two of them.

It's also genetically impossible for him to be gray because gray is a dominant gene so ALL gray horses must have at least one gray parent.

It's genetically impossible for him to be champagne (UNLESS his dam was actually a champagne who was registered as a palomino)... but he still can't be one because his skin is black.



Good luck with him, anyway. He's really cute : ]
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thank you cloudy you have been a huge help !
I will put some more pics up just trying to get it to work !
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post #28 of 28 Old 02-07-2010, 07:33 PM
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I agree palomino especially knowing his dam and sire's color. Also champagnes have malted skin.
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