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    06-07-2010, 09:10 AM
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Will these two foals both shed out to bay?

Will these two foals both be bays?



The mom on the above foal was a dun and the father was a buckskin.



The mom on the above foal was a gray (not sure of base color) and the father was a buckskin.
     
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    06-07-2010, 10:04 AM
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Foal
Top one looks Dun and the bottom one Buckskin to me from what I can see of the black points. Bays don't usually have the black on the ears, shoulder striping and Dorsal stripe. I am no expert though, My wife would probably know better. I will show her the pictures tonight and get her opinion.
     
    06-07-2010, 10:21 AM
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Thank you. I'd appreciate that.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:05 AM
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Showing
Primitive bays have dorsal stripes, and I've never met any color of bay that didn't have black points on their ears.

How far back in the parents' pedigrees are there bays? You most certainly can have a throwback, even with light colored parents.

The first doesn't have the typical black points on its legs, but that doesn't mean it won't darken down more to a primitive bay.

The second is likely to gray out like its dam. If it has gray hairs around its muzzle and eyes, it'll probably gray out.

My heart horse was definitely a bay, but he had a dorsal stripe and his black points on his legs didn't go up as far as they do on a more 'normal' bay.

So to answer your question, it depends.
     
    06-07-2010, 11:15 AM
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Yearling
On the first foal what color Dun was mama? To me, it looks like he took the Agouti from Daddy but not the dilute, making him bay. My geldings legs are black to his eyeballs,lol, but at birth they were the exact same buff color and didn't darken til he shed his foal coat.

On the second foal I am going to vote sooty-ish buckskin. Could tell a lot more if we knew what mamas base coat was before she grayed out.
     
    06-07-2010, 02:14 PM
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To answer some questions:

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How far back in the parents' pedigrees are there bays? You most certainly can have a throwback, even with light colored parents.
On the sire's side (for both foals): His mother was a bay and then both grandmother's were bay.

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On the second foal I am going to vote sooty-ish buckskin. Could tell a lot more if we knew what mamas base coat was before she grayed out.
On the second foal, papers say his mother was black for a base color?

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On the first foal what color Dun was mama?
On the first foal, the mother is a buckskin dun. (or brown dun??) Just to the left of the first photo you can see part of the mare. That was her color. I have a better picture if you need it.

Anyone else with an idea of what they could shed out to?
     
    06-07-2010, 05:25 PM
  #7
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Here are a couple more pictures of the second foal if that helps.







What do you think?
     
    06-07-2010, 05:30 PM
  #8
Showing
Well, we know he's a colt, now.....
     
    06-07-2010, 05:51 PM
  #9
Green Broke
The secound one look like he will gray out.
     
    06-07-2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
Well, we know he's a colt, now.....
LOL! Too funny!
     

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