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    03-25-2011, 06:54 PM
  #11
Green Broke
AC4H are scammers. There has been many cases of people fundraising for a horse through them and the horse totally disappearing. You will see this rescue referred to AC$H (or something like that) and the CEO referred to as Christy Shady (because she is Shady). I know that Frog Pond Draft Rescue will have nothing to do with them after they pulled a few drafts from them and two died very very shortly after arriving. A LOT of people say that when they get a horse through AC4H it comes homes sick and lame even when described as sound and healthy. I would never ever donate to them or any rescue associated with them. Google the rescue and the person running the rescue before you donate.

I donated $150 to a rescue for a mare that had very similar bloodlines to a gelding I used to own. Turns out that rescue (Peace Of Mind) had over 100 counts of animal cruelty on them and the director runs 2 seperate rescues! I didn't find this out until after I donated, sent the money as a gift and to their business paypal (stupid me) not their rescue paypal (because the business one is the one they gave me) so there was no way I could get my money back. (Google Peace Of Mind Rescue or Rock N Acres Rescue for more information) It turns out that at the time I donated she was saying she was a branch of ARM (Arabian Rescue Mission) which can't even have branches due to their tax status. So when asked for valid non-profit information she scrambled and filed and was telling everyone that she'd "fix" her tax problem in a week and that her information was valid even though she posted an invalid EIN. Her file date was a week after people started questioning her. She also lied repeatedly about her name, referring to herself as Sherry Rickard when come to find out that POM was registered to Sherry Ford, who is listed with Rock N Acres on TN non-profit website. AND surprise surprise, there is no new information on the mare I donated to! It's pretty frustrating! Be careful who you donate to!
     
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    03-25-2011, 07:07 PM
  #12
Green Broke
I went and looked at some of the videos they had posted of broker horses today. Little 30 second videos in which, for example, they claimed a pony was calm and respectful on the ground, yet she was obviously a nervous wreck, and running all over her handler and dragging him around. They pawned it off on her having "excellent movement". Um, no. In several others, the horses had glaring lamenesses, but it was not mentioned in the listing. The more I see of them, the more they scream scammers.
     
    03-25-2011, 07:33 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by ShutUpJoe    
AC4H are scammers. There has been many cases of people fundraising for a horse through them and the horse totally disappearing. You will see this rescue referred to AC$H (or something like that) and the CEO referred to as Christy Shady (because she is Shady). I know that Frog Pond Draft Rescue will have nothing to do with them after they pulled a few drafts from them and two died very very shortly after arriving. A LOT of people say that when they get a horse through AC4H it comes homes sick and lame even when described as sound and healthy. I would never ever donate to them or any rescue associated with them. Google the rescue and the person running the rescue before you donate.

I donated $150 to a rescue for a mare that had very similar bloodlines to a gelding I used to own. Turns out that rescue (Peace Of Mind) had over 100 counts of animal cruelty on them and the director runs 2 seperate rescues! I didn't find this out until after I donated, sent the money as a gift and to their business paypal (stupid me) not their rescue paypal (because the business one is the one they gave me) so there was no way I could get my money back. (Google Peace Of Mind Rescue or Rock N Acres Rescue for more information) It turns out that at the time I donated she was saying she was a branch of ARM (Arabian Rescue Mission) which can't even have branches due to their tax status. So when asked for valid non-profit information she scrambled and filed and was telling everyone that she'd "fix" her tax problem in a week and that her information was valid even though she posted an invalid EIN. Her file date was a week after people started questioning her. She also lied repeatedly about her name, referring to herself as Sherry Rickard when come to find out that POM was registered to Sherry Ford, who is listed with Rock N Acres on TN non-profit website. AND surprise surprise, there is no new information on the mare I donated to! It's pretty frustrating! Be careful who you donate to!
i'm confused by a portion of this - you say that ARM can't have branches due to their tax status. Do you mean like branches outside of their state or branches off the main arabian rescue at all? I know they have a non-arabian division which is Ever After Horse Rescue.

There are just so so many things about rescues and how they run and how they can be set up that's so confusing and hard to wade through to find out what the deal really is. I think that's how/why some of these less than honest people get away with it. Very sad for the horses.
     
    03-26-2011, 12:05 AM
  #14
Showing
I guess we are lucky here! I have 3 horse rescues within 15 miles from me and all have good reputation and offer some nice horses. I also know people who own horses from all 3 and very happy.
     
    03-26-2011, 12:13 AM
  #15
Green Broke
I am not sure if Terry (the director of ARM) knew that she could not have branches or not. I am also not sure if she has tried to fix her tax status to include her branches. Basically other rescues saying that they are partners with ARM and using ARM's tax information. ARM (when I looked) is a '0' tax bracket which allows 50% of your donation to be considered tax deductible and does not allow umbrellas or branches of the rescue. I do believe that Terry tries to help horses as much as she can and she is a very nice person. I've spoken with her many times.
     
    03-26-2011, 02:42 AM
  #16
Banned
Wow Apachie, I thought I knew stuff about AC4Hs did but I didn't know the half of it.

How are the still in business and accepting donations?
     
    03-26-2011, 09:47 AM
  #17
Green Broke
I don't have a clue. I suppose because she is "under investigation" that they are still allowing them to run while they investigate. I'm betting she has connections in very high places. And I'm not even really sure who has the authority to shut them down. (I know obviously there is someone, I'm just not up on that sort of information.)

In all honestly it sounds like they are just running a second rate feedlot, and that's it. The only reason they claim to be a rescue is for that tax exemption, and to pull at people's heartstrings so they will hand over more money. Since it turns out they send the horses right back to the kill buyers if they don't sell, what else COULD you call them?
     
    03-26-2011, 10:09 AM
  #18
Foal
Honestly, 2 of my horses I outbid the slaughter man at an aution house, they are great horses, I checked em out first, and feel really good about giving them a home
     
    05-23-2011, 09:33 PM
  #19
Weanling
I dealt with AC4H's almost 8 years ago. I talked to a woman who knew Christy and she informed Christy that my bf's father was going to send his PMU colts to public auction.
Christy helped place almost all the foals and some of the mares. I was only involved as far as helping take pics & give descriptions of the horses, so I have no idea what happened on the US side of the deal. I do know that I have heard several stories of bad dealings with them. My experience was mainly positive though.
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