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    12-16-2011, 12:26 AM
  #41
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That article is absolutely riddled with bias and inaccuracy. Too many grossly wrong "facts" to count. If they--and veterinarians, no less--hope to make a case for their opinion, they should have the decency to go about it honestly and not based on misguided emotion. This goes for whatever side of the fence they are on.
     
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    12-16-2011, 10:36 PM
  #42
Foal
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I am glad to see the ban was lifted a friend of mine found extra Horses in her pasture on 3 different occasions this year.
Prices of Horses in my area have fallen so far it is now more expensive to adopt a dog from the pound than to buy a good Horse.
Hay in my area is ridiculous as far as price and you can't give horses away.
As long as they have a handle on how they trans port and Slaughter to make it quick and less stressful I see no problem with it we need it.
To many Horses are off worse now than ever.
     
    12-16-2011, 11:17 PM
  #43
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Hmm nice that the OP has contributated to this discussion,seems to have just made her one post to the forum & left....
     
    12-18-2011, 04:10 AM
  #44
Foal
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
If you're Canadian, why aren't you trying to have it banned in your own country, instead of sticking your nose into the US's business?

For the record, the majority of people on this BB have no problem with reopening the plants here in the US.
Agree on both counts, and I was one of the people on the other side of the horse-slaughter-ban debate the first time around. I was wrong and anybody I debated the issue with on rec.equestrian gets a free "I told you so" for use anytime they wish.

The volume of horses exported to Canada for slaughter has increased close to 150 percent since the de facto ban was passed. The volume to Mexico is upwards of 660 percent ... and shall we talk about the number of older and/or ill horses simply abandoned by their owners since then?
     
    12-18-2011, 09:19 AM
  #45
Started
Just because a group of" Veterinarians" wrote that paper doesn't mean squat. There are" veterinarians" who support and back PETA and the HSUS, both groups who do not want anyone to own pets. There are "Veteranarians" who go by the new vaccine protocal brought up by AVMA, then there are the ones who will not do vaccinations every three years(for dogs) because they lose revenue each year.
A "paper" is just that, a "paper" written with words on it.
     
    12-19-2011, 12:13 PM
  #46
Foal
In my eyes, horses are livestock. Yes... I have "my" horse and she is a pet, I would not want to see her sent to slaughter, but at the same time I also have a pet cow and we raise pigs. The cows and pigs are all food sources and while I love animals and always become attached to the new babies (so cute) they all have the same fate. I tend to look at horses the same way. While I don't eat horse meat (I might try it though if the opportunity ever presents itself) my horses have jobs to do. And at which point they can no longer perform at the required standard, it is time for them to move on. Economically it makes no sense to feed an animal that has no purpose here on the farm, and we are all about living economically here. I wouldn't sell my horse for slaughter personally, but if they end up there somehow, I understand.

Yes, the BYB need to be reined in, but its not the place of the government to control who breeds what horses. I agree with the posters who said supply and demand. People just need to STOP buying the fugly horses. Easy. With that said, the BYB will continue to help the horse slaughter industry but should not affect the breeders who truly breed quality animals. Chances are we are not going to see a horse from a BYB winning any huge championships so anyone looking for a true performance horse won't be visiting the BYB anyway.

Just my opinion, but we really do not need more government regulation.
     
    12-19-2011, 02:17 PM
  #47
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Originally Posted by goneriding    
As usual, penalize the responsible pet owners with licensing fees to pay for the idiots. Why do responsible people always end up paying? If they made it law that horses have to be licensed, do you honestly think that money would stay in the equine sector? Government will spend it on other BS. How are they going to enforce horse licensing? More taxpayer money.......Tired of paying for idiots that will continue being idiots. Tired of giving money to the government so they can just p**s it away, then turn around and find a way to get more.
Sounds to me like you're wasting your time and energy nagging about things that a.) You have no control over or B.) You have no intention of actually DOING anything to change it.

Talking and complaining gets you nowhere. And if our country is so bad, why do you live here? You're welcome to move somewhere else at any given time.

I personally am utterly sick of people sitting around complaining about how awful this country is and how meal and terrible the government is. Its really not THAT bad or you folks wouldn't be living here. Instead of complaining, join a campaign group of some sort and DO SOMETHING about it. Nothing will ever change if people just sit around and TALK instead of going out and DOING.
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    12-19-2011, 03:09 PM
  #48
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Originally Posted by SarahAnn    
Instead of complaining, join a campaign group of some sort and DO SOMETHING about it. Nothing will ever change if people just sit around and TALK instead of going out and DOING.
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In all seriousness....we *NEED* to do something about it.
     
    12-20-2011, 12:08 PM
  #49
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by SarahAnn    
Sounds to me like you're wasting your time and energy nagging about things that a.) You have no control over or B.) You have no intention of actually DOING anything to change it.

Talking and complaining gets you nowhere. And if our country is so bad, why do you live here? You're welcome to move somewhere else at any given time.

I personally am utterly sick of people sitting around complaining about how awful this country is and how meal and terrible the government is. Its really not THAT bad or you folks wouldn't be living here. Instead of complaining, join a campaign group of some sort and DO SOMETHING about it. Nothing will ever change if people just sit around and TALK instead of going out and DOING.
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I don't care for what the Government does either but I'm not going to give up on my Country & move away. I do vote, write many, many letter to our elected officials, I study issues & give heavily to those that feel the same way I do. I also follow up to see if promises are kept.
The Gov. Does piss away money-money taken from someone else. Money taken in for one cause is not earmarked only for that cause.
Sorry to stray from the chipper topic.
     
    12-21-2011, 08:34 AM
  #50
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Originally Posted by paintedpastures    
Hmm nice that the OP has contributated to this discussion,seems to have just made her one post to the forum & left....

Maybe all the snarkiness scared her away! Lol

Seriously, why don't we all JUST NOT REPSOND to these type of threads???

WHY waste time and energy on "go nowhere" debates like this where everyone talks past each other and gets snarky??

After all, you all aren't going to change the way I think and I am not going to change the way YOU think and NONE of us are going to change the way the government thinks!!
     

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