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    06-17-2009, 11:05 AM
  #11
Weanling
Horse Slaughter isnt Humane by any standards but I believe it is a necessary evil. Think of all the unwanted horses out there that no longer have an outlet because of the slaughter houses being closed down. Horses that are injured, sick or just plain aggressive and cannot be handled. Where are those horses going to go? I don't know about you but most of the rescues around here are stock full of horses. The horse market is bad and I believe that closing the slaughter houses down 4 years ago was a main cause of it because they are just getting over populated and have no where to go. People are dumping horses off at parks because they cannot afford to feed them. You could get 800 dollars for selling a horse for meat, just by the pound. That would have been money for an owner that had a horse that was lame or unhandleable. There are good horses going to the slaughter pens but there are also horses going that need to be there.. sorry to say it.. but it's true. It's reality. I love horses as much as the next person but I feel one needs to be reopened.
     
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    06-17-2009, 11:15 AM
  #12
Chat Moderator
If the slaughter plants were in the USA, they would mostly likely be more humane than one in Mexico or even Canada, and there would be lessshipping time, plus it would create more jobs for Americans.
And that $800 could go to buying another horse.
     
    06-17-2009, 11:33 AM
  #13
Weanling
Yep, that's very true. I'm sure they would be more humane then overseas, america normally tries to pride itself on humane treatment of animals. You are right, there would be more jobs for those americans that have lost theirs in this economical slump. Horses are starving everywhere, because the owners have lost jobs and cannot afford to feed them and with no feedlots open.. they just turn them loose. It's happening all over the U.S. People taking trailer loads of horses into state parks and letting them go or tying them to some one elses trailer. 800 dollars is good money for a horse you may not even get 150 out of. Be it lame or aggressive.
     
    06-24-2009, 08:29 PM
  #14
Foal
I am against slaughter and the slaughterhouses that were in the US were not humane. One slaughterhouse in Texas was constantly being fined and not paying for polluting the environment and people who lived near it complained. Slaughter is not necessary. Horses can be humanely euthanized or turned over to animal control if suitable homes cannot be found or the animal is dangerous. Greed is the reason slaughter exists and those who really care about horses are against it even if they can profit from it. Evil is never necessary and good people do not let their animals starve. People who starve their animals are criminals. Cattle slaughterhouses have been guilty of cruelty also and all cruelty should be punished no matter what kind of animal is the victim. Humane slaughter has been the law for a long time and should have been enforced but wasn't and maybe isn't. Cruelty turned me into a vegetarian. Pigs have been raised cruelly not just slaughtered cruelly in close confinement hog barns. America has been guilty of lots of inhumane treatment of animals and still is including cruelty in research. My old mare was humanely euthanized by a vet and I was there with her. When I bought her back at the end of 1990 she was skin and bone and there was a slaughterhouse less than a hundred miles from the auction. That night I bought the only horse sold to the kill buyer after the auction ended and I had him for many years. He was about 5 years old and sound. In the county I live in a man starved horses back when that place was open and was convicted twice more before he was told he could not have horses anymore. He even locked horses in stalls and nailed the doors shut and the horses were found dead inside. He could have sold them and could have had the kill buyer pick them up but he chose to starve them instead.
     
    06-24-2009, 10:00 PM
  #15
Foal
I don't believe horse slaughter has ever been humane. The problem is that anti horse slaughter folks pushed to close the slaughter plants down without ever thinking ahead. Now, you've got less horses being slaughtered, but the unlucky horses that are going to slaughter have to travel in the most inhumane way and a long ways at that, and when they get there, they're being treated and slaughtered MUCH worse than how it was in the US. Then you've got more abandonment, cruelty, and neglect than ever before. So how was closing the plants really helping the horses? I don't see it as a necessary evil, I see it as just plain necessary. Does a horse have different feelings than a cow or chicken? No. Yet here we are today with chicken, cattle, and hog slaughterhouses and no one is pushing to close them down.

You know...this was the first year our family has ever had to dealt with an abandoned horse left to die at our straw stack. He was skin and bones when I found him and unfortunately had to be put down two weeks later due to complications and other issues. I have NEVER in my whole life seen so many abused and neglected horses as I have in the last year. I wish us horse people really would have thought the whole thing through before many of us had pushed to close them down. What's worse, dying quickly from nail gun shots through the head or sitting in a pasture for 2 years without hoof care starving to death?

I hope I don't get beat for this, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's mine. ;)

EDIT: Sorry can't spell today.
     
    06-24-2009, 10:24 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Kincsem    
Greed is the reason slaughter exists and those who really care about horses are against it even if they can profit from it. Evil is never necessary and good people do not let their animals starve.
That's insulting. It implies that those of us who see the necessity of slaughter don't care about our animals. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The reason slaughter is necessary in my eyes is because I would rather see a horse go to slaughter (humanely and yes it IS POSSIBLE to have a humane slaughterhouse) to feed the hungry than see that horse neglected and abused.

Greed is not the reason slaughter exists. Greed is the reason slaughter is necessary. You can thank the backyard breeders who look at horses and see money signs for that. The backyard breeders who breed horses just to sell them.

Slaughter is not evil. Good people do not let their animals starve, but good people also do not stand by and let other people's animals starve if those animals can go and serve a good purpose and feed the hungry.

The sad truth, as DakotaLuv provided an example of, is that people WILL let their animal starve if they can't afford to take care of it, and you simply CAN NOT feed every unwanted horse in the US. Do you have any idea how many unwanted horses are bred every year due to ignorance, negligence, and greed?? It is idealistic and unrealistic to think that we can just "open our hearts" and feed every single unwanted beast. I sincerely wish we could, because contrary to what you believe of a pro-slaughter individual, I actually do care about the horses.
     
    06-24-2009, 10:55 PM
  #17
Chat Moderator
Greed is not the reason slaughter exists. Greed is the reason slaughter is necessary. You can thank the backyard breeders who look at horses and see money signs for that. The backyard breeders who breed horses just to sell them.

Goldilockz,
I disagree with you about that. The issues are more than just breeders over producing foals. And making money is the reason why breeders are breeding horses. Those breeders who breed a junkie mare to a below average stud, are not the only reason why we have horse slaughter. People who used to ride is another reason.
     
    06-24-2009, 11:16 PM
  #18
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
Don't jump down my throat now...but though slaughter is not always humane, I still see it as necessary until people can stop breeding crap and take responsibility for the horses they already have. Yes, I wish slaughter would be more heavily regulated (and happen in America instead of hauling the horses to Canada) and all the horses would be stunned effectively. I wish slaughter didn't happen. However it's an export buissiness and there is always going to be demand. Instead of trying to close plants in America and trying to save all the horses, we as horse owners need to take action. Retirement, euthanasia, etc are all viable options. Horses are still going to be killed, but far less will be if owners are responsible.

I agree. If we had humane methods it would be better for the horses. And if you could get people to quit breeding crap horses that'd be even better. But the second one isn't going to happen.

And that's a bunch of crap that someone that supports slaughter doesn't care about their horses. Thank the idiot breeders out there for making it necessary. Go look at any number of threads on this very forum with people wanting to breed inferior mares and ignoring the people who tell them not to do it.

It can be made more humane. You think it was bad in the US what do you think is happening to the horses getting shipped to Mexico? Does it make people feel better that it isn't happening in our country? If it was, better legislation could be pushed forward to regulate them.
     
    06-25-2009, 09:41 AM
  #19
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentucky    
Greed is not the reason slaughter exists. Greed is the reason slaughter is necessary. You can thank the backyard breeders who look at horses and see money signs for that. The backyard breeders who breed horses just to sell them.

Goldilockz,
I disagree with you about that. The issues are more than just breeders over producing foals. And making money is the reason why breeders are breeding horses. Those breeders who breed a junkie mare to a below average stud, are not the only reason why we have horse slaughter. People who used to ride is another reason.
Oh I definitely agree they aren't the only reason that slaughter happens. I just feel it is a major factor because these horses have nowhere to go when no one wants them, and they shouldn't have been bred in the first place.
     
    06-25-2009, 09:44 AM
  #20
Chat Moderator
I think a major part of that reason is the breeders don't know what they are doing. The best way to counter this is to educate them on what a good horse is and what should and shouldn't be bred.
     

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