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post #11 of 47 Old 01-25-2014, 02:22 PM
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No. As a matter of fact, meat condemned by the inspectors usually gets put into pet foods. Poultry with abscesses becomes 'chicken' and 'chicken by-products'. Beef carcasses found to have diseases like cancer or infections, goes into pet foods. I always get a real kick out of the pet food ads that say they want CHICKEN to be the first name on the label. It is a diseased or condemned chicken -- but they don't tell you that.

All of the old laying hens that are 'worn out' go to the Campbell Soup Plant in North Texas from the big egg houses near here. Our county has about 2 million laying hens housed here. There is an inspector at Campbells' and all the condemned chickens are boiled down to a meal and go to pet food plants and are labeled 'chicken'. Meat and bone meal comes from dead animals sent to rendering plants that boil them all down.

The only animals processed for human consumption that are not inspected are those that are not sold to the public. There are no inspectors at small facilities where people bring their own animals to to be processed. We take our Bison and hogs or beef to a small family owned facility in Madill, OK that we have used for decades.
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I don't like the idea of my tax dollars being spent on a service I will never use & a product I will also never use. I feel the same way about paying for someone else's abortion or birth control & multiple other things someone else decides we need to spend money on.

Why not have the plant owners pay for the inspections? Is there worry about the inspectors being paid to overlook wrong doings? Of course if the owners pay then they will turn that cost over to consumers, as always, but if someone wants to use the facilities or the product then so be it.
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^^ I suspect the plant owners would be glad to pay for the inspections. I also doubt the government would ever allow it, since it would be a conflict of interest in an area involving consumer safety. Areas I do not mind spending tax dollars on include inspecting food, ensuring humane standards for animals, worker safety, etc.
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There are many services that many people pay for with tax $$$ but do not use.

Childless individuals and couples do not use public schools. Property taxes pay for many services that all residents do not use. Even if you never plan to eat in a restaurant, we all pay for restaurant inspections.

This is part of how a civilized country tries to make things better and safer for all. Personally, I would not want to live in a country that let unsafe or unhealthy conditions flourish. I think West Virginia could do a better job of inspecting industrial sites. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. It is a top-heavy inefficient bureaucracy, but it beats letting industries self-regulate. We have seen how that works from the banking industry to just about any other industry.

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Are the inspection cost issues coming from horses not being recognized as livestock - or are they classed as livestock in the US? There seems to be a differentiation in the UK where a horse is classed as agricultural if its used for farm work or to produce meat or hide and a pet if used for leisure/competition
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They have always been considered as livestock. Domestic slaughter was actually stopped due to state laws. When there was talk of bringing it back, the animal rights nuts, (mostly led by the political lobbyists paid by HSUS) got politicians to pull funding. Last year, funding was restored and that is why they almost got a new processing facility opened. Then, the last minute, the same politicians funded by HSUS got inspection funding pulled again.
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Isn't the thinking behind this to curb raising horses solely for meat?
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^^ I think the thinking behind this is: "Don't hurt the horsies!"

I don't want to hurt horsies either, but I'm waiting to hear of a good alternative.

Cowboy is our little BLM mustang. He's ridden about 6 times/year, so we obviously do not need him...but as long as I can afford his feed, I guess we'll keep him. I kind of like the little snot, although I wouldn't cry if someone wanted him. But if he or Mia was sick, and couldn't live any longer without pain, and I could have them killed and rendered for dog food or even meat for people (depending on what was wrong), then why not?

I consider the shipping to be the 'cruelty', not the killing. And we still allow shipping to Mexico...
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That's what I don't understand bsms - they aren't sparing any horses from slaughter at all, just forcing them on a long journey to Mexico or Canada
I was able to take a horse to a slaughter yard myself in the UK by appointment or have them come to the yard to do it and be there to ensure it was handled properly. The money I got went towards buying another horse
Of course the EU regulations on medications have stopped most people doing that over there now which is why so many horses are being abandoned and so many useless horses on the market that keep getting passed around that would at one time have gone for slaughter
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Remember who voted for this and make SURE that you are registered--Today would be a GREAT day to register to vote, if you are not already!!
Also, don't look for the perfect candidate.
Vote for the best choice and hold them accountable!!!!!

This same, STUPID argument--"the horses are trailored 5 days to Mexico to be slaughered" was used years ago, when it wasn't true to convince everybody to get rid of horse slaughter. Where I live, the meat market used to drive 4 hours north to a slaughterhouse in Illinois, which was, I believe, the last one shut down in the US. Now, bc of politicians, this IS true.
It's time to clean house in Washington, AND in my state, Illinois.
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