Originally Posted by faye
DA, I'm in the UK, I was part of the campaign for on the hook not the hoof, so far i've directly saved 5 horses from the meat man, but they were all nice rehabbable horses who went to have useful lives.
That said I'm not against slaughter provided it is humane, thousands of unwanted horses, broken down horses and nasty horses have need an outlet.
Having a horse PTS at home and the carcass taken away and rendered costs approx £500, whilst I'm happy to spend that on a faithful friend at the end of thier life, I'm not happy to spend that on a fruitloop who tries to kill everyone who goes near it and has put several people in hospital. Yes I sent that horse to Potters where it probably ended up in a dog food can, but it was a relativly humane end and I got a small amount of money back that I could reinvest is saving other horses, I don't have endless amounts of money#
I've also worked in an abattoir so have a far better idea of what goes on in a well regulated abattoir than you do and yes I would (and have) send one for slaughter because a well run abbatoir is humane.
The lesser of 2 evils may still be evil in your book but I know personaly i'd far rather take the lesser of those 2 evils and have the slightly less than perfect deaths of horses on my concious than the torturous end that horses suffer because you couldnt accept that "lesser" evil and because you wouldnt work on making that lesser evil even less!
People like you are incredibly hypocritical and it disgusts me!
Yes I hold you directly responsible for the torture of horses in mexico! Had you not campaigned to end slaughter within the US then thousands of horses would not have had to suffer anywhere near as much both in transport and in dieing.
Reality is that if you ban something anywhere then it will just move somewhere you can't control and then you lose all chance of a humane end.
Amazing. You really are making a LOT of assumptions based on absolutely nothing but your own stigma against my stance.
Do you know how many slaughterhouses I've been to? Do you know anything I've done? Can you tell me how many horses I've helped? Can you list ANY FACTS supporting your accusations?
Nope. You haven't a clue. You're too busy on your high horse turning your nose down at people. You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of anything about me outside of the fact that I'm against slaughter and why. You have NO, absolutely ZERO idea of what steps I've taken to support my stance. You are just assuming things, and you really, really shouldn't.
Telling me I'm a hypocrite because you assume I'm not backing up my stance and based on zero evidence is a little nuts.
Please let me know when and where I campaigned against slaughter. You make the accusation - you need to back it up. So...back it up. Show me the things that you think I did. I bet you will have a hard time doing it because only you believe the things that are in your own imagination.
Holding me personally responsible for horses slaughtered in Mexico is bizarre to say the least. I didn't buy them and truck them over the border. I didn't pay to do that. I had actually zero involvement in it. If anything, why don't you just purchase the slaughterhouses in Mexico and run them right? Can I hold you responsible for not doing whatever is necessary to do that?
Can you really look at slaughterhouses in the US and call them humane? I assure you, they're not. As to whether or not that's better than starving in a field, I don't know. That would be an amazingly tough call. Obviously I don't want a horse starving in a field in a slow torture, but I don't want them tortured to death in a slaughterhouse either. I look at both options and I don't see a winning one there.
I feel bad for you that you're accepting of slaughterhouses regardless of their conditions. Do you hate all animals, or just horses? Because as I've stated time and time again, UNLESS slaughterhouses are HUMANE (not "kinda humane" or "mostly humane"), and PROTECT stolen horses from being murdered and PROTECT people/animals from ingesting horse meat tainted with drugs, then I am against them. I flat out can't grasp why you think those notions are bad.